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44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

Journals No. 370 (Unrevised) Monday, November 18, 2024 11:00 a.m.

Prayer

Question of Privilege

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the amendment, as amended, of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following:

“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:

(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:

(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,

(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,

(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,

(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),

(v) the Auditor General of Canada,

(vi) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,

(vii) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,

(viii) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,

(ix) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,

(x) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and

(b) that it report back to the House no later than Friday, November 22, 2024.”;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris), — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “Friday, November 22, 2024” with the following:

“the 30th sitting day following the adoption of this order”.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the subamendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Barrett (Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes), seconded by Mr. McCauley (Edmonton West), — That the House, having considered the unanimous views of the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics, expressed in its 12th report, find Stephen Anderson to be in contempt for his failure to provide the information which the committee had ordered him to produce and, accordingly, order him to attend at the bar of this House, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions on the next Wednesday the House sits which is at least one week following the adoption of this order, for the purposes of:

(a) receiving an admonishment delivered by the Speaker;

(b) delivering up the records referred to in the 12th report;

(d) responding to supplementary questions arising from his responses to the questions referred to in the 12th report;

provided that:

(e) any records which Mr. Anderson produces shall stand referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics;

(f) the questioning shall be governed by the provisions of subparagraphs (b)(iv) and (v) of the order adopted on Monday, April 8, 2024, concerning the appearance at the bar of Kristian Firth, except that references to "Mr. Firth" be read as "Mr. Anderson"; and

(g) it be an instruction to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics to consider the records produced by Mr. Anderson and his testimony at the bar of the House and, if necessary, recommend further action.

The debate continued.

Mr. Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton), seconded by Mr. Doherty (Cariboo—Prince George), moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting paragraph (f) and substituting the following:

“(f) during Mr. Anderson’s appearance at the bar for the purpose of responding to questions, which shall be asked by members, with questions and answers being addressed through the Speaker:

(i) during the first round of questioning, ten minutes shall be allocated to a member from each recognized party in the following order: the Official Opposition, the Bloc Québécois, the New Democratic Party and the government party,

(ii) during the second round of questioning, there shall be 13 periods of five minutes each for members from the recognized parties, who shall be recognized consistent with the proportions observed during Oral Questions, namely, and in the following order, five members of the Official Opposition, two members of the Bloc Quebecois, two members of the New Democratic Party, one member of the government party, and three members of the Official Opposition, provided that the same member may be recognized more than once,

(iii) during either round, members may be permitted to share their time with one or more members by so indicating to the Speaker,

(iv) each of Mr. Anderson’s answers shall approximately reflect the time taken by the question which preceded it,

(v) the Speaker may, at his discretion, suspend the sitting briefly during the questioning;

(g) at the expiry of the time provided for questioning, and after Mr. Anderson has been excused from further attendance, the House shall resume consideration of the usual business of the House for a Wednesday; and”.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was resolved, — That the House:

(a) salute Mr. Irwin Cotler's contribution to the defence of human rights and the fight against racism and anti-Semitism; and

(b) recall his political contribution as Attorney General and Minister of Justice from 2003 to 2006, and that it condemn the death threats against him orchestrated by agents of a foreign regime.

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Privilege

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Scheer (Regina—Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), — That the government's failure of fully providing documents, as ordered by the House on June 10, 2024, be hereby referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;
And of the amendment of Mr. Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable), seconded by Mr. Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets), — That the motion be amended by adding the following:
“provided that it be an instruction to the committee:
(a) that the following witnesses be ordered to appear before the committee, separately, for two hours each:
(i) the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry,
(ii) the Clerk of the Privy Council,
(iii) the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, who respected the order of the House and deposited unredacted documents,
(iv) Paul MacKinnon, the former Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet (Governance),
(v) the Auditor General of Canada,
(vi) the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
(vii) the Deputy Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada,
(viii) the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons,
(ix) the Acting President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada,
(x) a panel consisting of the Board of Sustainable Development Technology Canada; and
(b) that it report back to the House no later than Friday, November 22, 2024.”;
The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the subamendment of Mr. Kmiec (Calgary Shepard), seconded by Mr. Maguire (Brandon—Souris), — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “Friday, November 22, 2024” with the following:
“the 30th sitting day following the adoption of this order”.
The question was put on the subamendment and it was agreed to on the following division:
(Division No. 882 -- Vote n^o 882)
YEAS: 319, NAYS: 0
YEAS -- POUR Aboultaif Aitchison Albas Alghabra Ali Allison Anand Anandasangaree Angus Arnold Arseneault Arya Atwin Bachrach Badawey Bains Baker Baldinelli Barlow Barrett Barron Barsalou-Duval Battiste Beaulieu Beech Bendayan Bergeron Berthold Bérubé Bezan Bibeau Bittle Blanchet Blaney Block Blois Boissonnault Boulerice Bradford Bragdon Brassard Brière Brock Brunelle-Duceppe Calkins Cannings Caputo Carr Carrie Casey Chabot Chagger Chahal Chambers Champagne Champoux Chatel Chen Chiang Chong Collins (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek) Collins (Victoria) Cooper Cormier Coteau Dabrusin Dalton Damoff Dance Dancho Davidson Davies DeBellefeuille Deltell d'Entremont Desbiens Desilets Desjarlais Dhaliwal Dhillon Diab Doherty Dong Dowdall Dreeshen Drouin Dubourg Duclos Duguid Duncan (Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry) Ehsassi El-Khoury Ellis Epp Erskine-Smith Falk (Battlefords—Lloydminster) Falk (Provencher) Fast Ferreri Fisher Fonseca Fortier Fortin Fragiskatos Fraser Freeland Fry Gaheer Gainey Gallant Garon Garrison Gaudreau Gazan Généreux Genuis Gerretsen Gill Gladu Godin Goodridge Gould Gourde Gray Green Guilbeault Hajdu Hallan Hanley Hardie Hepfner Hoback Holland Housefather Hughes Hussen Hutchings Iacono Idlout Ien Jaczek Jeneroux Jivani Johns Joly Jones Jowhari Julian Kayabaga Kelloway Kelly Khalid Khanna Khera Kmiec Koutrakis Kram Kramp-Neuman Kurek Kusie Kusmierczyk Kwan Lake Lalonde Lambropoulos Lamoureux Lantsman Lapointe Larouche Lattanzio Lauzon Lawrence LeBlanc Lebouthillier Lehoux Lemire Leslie Lewis (Essex) Lewis (Haldimand—Norfolk) Liepert Lightbound Lloyd Lobb Long Longfield Louis (Kitchener—Conestoga) MacAulay (Cardigan) MacDonald (Malpeque) MacGregor MacKinnon (Gatineau) Maguire Majumdar Maloney Martel Martinez Ferrada Masse Mathyssen May (Cambridge) May (Saanich—Gulf Islands) Mazier McCauley (Edmonton West) McDonald (Avalon) McGuinty McKay McKinnon (Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) McLean McLeod McPherson Melillo Mendès Michaud Miller Moore Morantz Morrice Morrison Morrissey Motz Murray Muys Naqvi Nater Ng Noormohamed Normandin O'Connell Oliphant Patzer Paul-Hus Pauzé Perkins Perron Petitpas Taylor Plamondon Poilievre Powlowski Qualtrough Rayes Redekopp Reid Rempel Garner Richards Roberts Robillard Rodriguez Rogers Romanado Rood Rota Ruff Sahota Sajjan Saks Samson Sarai Sauvé Savard-Tremblay Scarpaleggia Scheer Schiefke Schmale Seeback Sgro Shanahan Sheehan Shipley Sidhu (Brampton East) Sidhu (Brampton South) Simard Sinclair-Desgagné Singh Small Sorbara Soroka Sousa Steinley Ste-Marie Stewart (Toronto—St. Paul's) Stewart (Miramichi—Grand Lake) Strahl Stubbs Sudds Tassi Taylor Roy Thériault Therrien Thompson Tochor Tolmie Trudel Turnbull Uppal Valdez Van Bynen van Koeverden Van Popta Vandal Vandenbeld Vecchio Vidal Vien Viersen Vignola Villemure Virani Vis Wagantall Warkentin Waugh Webber Weiler Wilkinson Williams Williamson Yip Zahid Zarrillo Zimmer Zuberi Total: -- 319
NAYS -- CONTRE Nil--Aucun
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS Nil--Aucun

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), the Speaker laid before the House, — Copy of a letter from the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel in response to the motion adopted by the House on Monday, June 10, 2024. — Sessional Paper No. 8530-441-47.

Pursuant to Standing Order 79(3), the Speaker read the following message from Her Excellency the Governor General, presented by Ms. Anand (President of the Treasury Board):

Message on Estimates

Her Excellency the Governor General transmits to the House of Commons the Supplementary Estimates (B) of sums required to defray expenses of the federal public administration for the fiscal year ending on March 31, 2025, and, in accordance with section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867, recommends those estimates to the House of Commons.

Ms. Anand (President of the Treasury Board) laid before the House, — Document entitled "Supplementary Estimates (B), 2024-25". — Sessional Paper No. 8520-441-284.

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025, were deemed referred to the several standing committees of the House as follows:

(1) To the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics

Offices of the Information and Privacy Commissioners of Canada, Vote 5b

(2) To the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food

Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(3) To the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage

Canadian Race Relations Foundation, Vote 1b

Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, Vote 1b

Department of Canadian Heritage, Votes 1b and 5b

Library and Archives of Canada, Vote 1b

Telefilm Canada, Vote 1b

The National Battlefields Commission, Vote 1b

(4) To the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration

Department of Citizenship and Immigration, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(5) To the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development

Department of the Environment, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(6) To the Standing Committee on Finance

Canada Revenue Agency, Vote 1b

Department of Finance, Votes 1b, L10b and L15b

Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada, Vote 1b

(7) To the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans

Department of Fisheries and Oceans, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(8) To the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development

Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

International Joint Commission (Canadian Section), Vote 1b

(9) To the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates

Department of Public Works and Government Services, Votes 1b and 5b

National Capital Commission, Votes 1b and 5b

Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, Vote 1b

Privy Council Office, Vote 1b

Public Service Commission, Vote 1b

Shared Services Canada, Vote 1b

Treasury Board Secretariat, Votes 1b, 10b, 15b and 20b

(10) To the Standing Committee on Health

Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Canadian Institutes of Health Research, Votes 1b and 5b

Department of Health, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

Public Health Agency of Canada, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(11) To the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities

Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, Vote 1b

Department of Employment and Social Development, Votes 1b and 5b

(12) To the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs

Canadian High Arctic Research Station, Vote 1b

Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs, Votes 1b and 10b

Department of Indigenous Services, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(13) To the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology

Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Canadian Space Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Department of Industry, Votes 1b and 10b

Department of Western Economic Diversification, Votes 1b and 5b

Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec, Votes 1b and 5b

Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario, Votes 1b and 5b

Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario, Votes 1b and 5b

National Research Council of Canada, Votes 1b and 10b

Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council, Votes 1b and 5b

Pacific Economic Development Agency of Canada, Votes 1b and 5b

Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council, Votes 1b and 5b

Standards Council of Canada, Vote 1b

Statistics Canada, Vote 1b

(14) To the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights

Administrative Tribunals Support Service of Canada, Vote 1b

Canadian Human Rights Commission, Vote 1b

Courts Administration Service, Vote 1b

Department of Justice, Votes 1b and 5b

Law Commission of Canada, Vote 1b

(15) To the Standing Committee on National Defence

Communications Security Establishment, Vote 1b

Department of National Defence, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(16) To the Standing Committee on Natural Resources

Canadian Energy Regulator, Vote 1b

Department of Natural Resources, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

(17) To the Standing Committee on Official Languages

Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages, Vote 1b

(18) To the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs

House of Commons, Vote 1b

Parliamentary Protective Service, Vote 1b

(19) To the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security

Canada Border Services Agency, Votes 1b and 5b

Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Vote 1b

Correctional Service of Canada, Votes 1b and 5b

Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, Votes 1b and 5b

Parole Board of Canada, Vote 1b

Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Votes 1b, 5b, 10b and 15b

(20) To the Standing Committee on the Status of Women

Department for Women and Gender Equality, Votes 1b and 5b

(21) To the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities

Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1b

Department of Housing, Infrastructure and Communities, Votes 1b and 10b

Department of Transport, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b

Marine Atlantic Inc., Vote 1b

VIA Rail Canada Inc., Vote 1b

Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority, Vote 1b

(22) To the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs

Department of Veterans Affairs, Votes 1b and 5b

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid before the House, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 441-02632 and 441-02634 concerning citizenship and immigration;

— Nos. 441-02633, 441-02645, 441-02661 and 441-02663 concerning foreign affairs;

— Nos. 441-02635, 441-02641, 441-02651, 441-02653, 441-02660 and 441-02665 concerning justice;

— Nos. 441-02636, 441-02643 and 441-02646 concerning transportation;

— Nos. 441-02637 and 441-02664 concerning the democratic process;

— No. 441-02638 concerning veterans' affairs;

— Nos. 441-02639, 441-02654, 441-02658 and 441-02659 concerning health;

— No. 441-02640 concerning taxation;

— No. 441-02642 concerning media and telecommunications;

— Nos. 441-02644 and 441-02657 concerning civil and human rights;

— Nos. 441-02647, 441-02649, 441-02655 and 441-02666 concerning the environment;

— Nos. 441-02648, 441-02652 and 441-02662 concerning social affairs and equality;

— No. 441-02650 concerning employment and labour;

— Nos. 441-02656, 441-02667 and 441-02668 concerning parliament and politics.

Motions

Mr. Schmale (Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock), seconded by Ms. Gladu (Sarnia—Lambton), moved, — That the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs, presented on Monday, April 25, 2022, be concurred in. (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 74)

Debate arose thereon.

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Hussen (Minister of International Development) laid before the House, — Answers to questions Q-2999 to Q-3038 on the Order Paper. — Sessional Paper No. 8530-441-48.

Daily Routine Of Business

Motions

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Schmale (Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock), seconded by Ms. Gladu (Sarnia—Lambton), — That the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs, presented on Monday, April 25, 2022, be concurred in. (Concurrence in Committee Reports No. 74)

The debate continued.

Mr. Genuis (Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), moved the following amendment, — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs, presented on Monday, April 25, 2022, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, with a view to studying the economic and anti-reconciliatory barriers posed by fraudulent bids and applications for procurement opportunities set aside for Indigenous businesses, including those from non-Indigenous-owned companies, provided that, for the purposes of this study:

(a) the following be ordered to appear as witnesses, for at least two hours each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024,

(i) the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Official Languages,

(ii) the Minister of Indigenous Services,

(iii) the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations,

(iv) the Minister of Public Services and Procurement,

(v) Arianne Reza, Deputy Minister of Public Services and Procurement,

(vi) Catherine Poulin, Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services;

(b) Felix Papineau and Shawna Parker, individuals currently or formerly associated with Global Health Imports, shall each be ordered to appear as witnesses, separately, for at least one hour each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024; and

(i) hold at least four other meetings to receive evidence from Indigenous partners, stakeholders and experts, proposed by the members of the committee,

(ii) report its findings to the House by Friday, January 31, 2025.”.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Lloyd (Sturgeon River—Parkland), seconded by Mr. Kurek (Battle River—Crowfoot), moved the following subamendment, — That the amendment be amended by adding, in paragraph (c), the following:

“(iii) give priority to this study, subject only to its order of reference concerning Bill C-61, An Act respecting water, source water, drinking water, wastewater and related infrastructure on First Nation lands,

(iv) have the first priority for the use of House resources for committee meetings, subject to any special orders previously adopted, for the studies referred to in subparagraph (iii)”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the subamendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, November 19, 2024, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid before the House as follows:

— by Mr. MacKinnon (Minister of Labour and Seniors) — Service Fees Report of the Canadian Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, pursuant to the Service Fees Act S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-441-1395-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:05 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).