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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 113
Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 11:04 a.m. to 1:04 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
René Arseneault, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Lucie Lecomte, Analyst
• Emilie Lusson, Research Assistant
Association des conseils scolaires des écoles publiques de l'Ontario
• Denis Labelle, President
• Isabelle Girard, Executive Director
Commission nationale des parents francophones
• Gillian Anderson, President
• Jean-Luc Racine, Executive Director
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, May 2, 2024, the committee resumed its study of minority-language education continuum.

Denis Labelle, Isabelle Girard, Jean-Luc Racine et Gillian Anderson made statements and answered questions.

At 12:04 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 12:14 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Mario Beaulieu moved, — Given that

  • the media reported on Wednesday, September 25, 2024, that the Governor General of Canada, Mary Simon, was still unable to converse in French during a visit to a community organization in Lévis, Quebec, and that she had to cancel some of the events planned for her trip to Quebec for this reason;
  • the Governor General said she was “deeply committed” to learning French in 2021, when she was appointed, and she reiterated to Radio-Canada, in a 2023 interview, that she wanted to be able to “speak to francophones” by the end of 2024;

that the Committee

a) express its profound disappointment that, three years after her appointment, the Governor General of Canada is unable to hold a basic conversation in French in the course of her duties as the Sovereign’s representative in Canada, despite the Official Languages Act (OLA), whose purpose is to “ensure respect for English and French as the official languages of Canada and ensure equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions,” according to section 2(a) of the OLA, and to “advance the existence of a majority-French society in a Quebec where the future of French is assured,” according to section 2(b.2) of the OLA; and

b) ask the Chair to report the matter to the House as soon as possible.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Joël Godin moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has failed to appoint a bilingual Governor General and that the latter is still unable to speak French after 3 years in the position” after the words “Given that”,

and by replacing the words “a) express its profound disappointment that, 3 years after her appointment, the Governor General of Canada is unable to hold a basic conversation in French in the course of her duties as the Sovereign’s representative in Canada, despite the Official Languages Act (OLA), whose purpose is to “ensure respect for English and French as the official languages of Canada and ensure equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions,” according to section 2(a) of the OLA, and to “advance the existence of a majority-French society in a Quebec where the future of French is assured,” according to section 2(b.2) of the OLA; and; b) ask the Chair to report the matter to the House as soon as possible.”,

with the words:

”a) the Committee report to the House the Prime Minister of Canada’s failure to respect Canada’s official languages by appointing a Governor General that cannot speak French, and has not demonstrated any improvements over the past 3 years;

b) Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f), the committee undertake a study of the reasons which led the Prime Minister to appoint the Governor General unable to express herself in one of Canada’s two official languages and that, as part of this study, the committee invite to appear:

  • The Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, Quebec Lieutenant;
  • The Honourable Pablo Rodriguez, former Quebec Lieutenant;

Advisory Panel on the Selection of the Next Governor General:

  • The Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Co-Chair;
  • Janice Charrette, Co-Chair;

Privy Council Office:

  • Donnalyn McClymony, Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet (Senior Personnel and Public Service Renewal);
  • Donald Booth, Canadian Secretary to the King;

Office of the Secretary to the Governor General:

  • Ken MacKillop, Secretary to the Governor General;

that the Committee allocate a minimum of 5 meetings to this study, and

that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House."

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment out of order because it introduces a new proposition that should properly be the subject of a substantive motion.

At 12:30 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 12:33 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The debate on the motion continued.

By unanimous consent, the motion was withdrawn.

Motion

Joël Godin moved, — Given that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has failed to appoint a bilingual Governor General and that the latter is still unable to speak French after 3 years in the position,

therefore, be it resolved that:

a) The committee report to the House the Prime Minister of Canada’s failure to respect Canada’s official languages by appointing a Governor General that cannot speak French, and has not demonstrated any improvements over the past 3 years;

b) Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(f), the c ommittee undertake a study of the reasons which led the Prime Minister to appoint the Governor General unable to express herself in one of Canada’s two official languages and that, as part of this study, the c ommittee invite to appear:

  • The Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, Quebec Lieutenant;
  • The Honourable Pablo Rodriguez, former Quebec Lieutenant;

Advisory Panel on the Selection of the Next Governor General:

  • The Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Co-Chair;
  • Janice Charrette, Co-Chair;

Privy Council Office:

  • Donnalyn McClymony, Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet (Senior Personnel and Public Service Renewal);
  • Donald Booth, Canadian Secretary to the King;

Office of the Secretary to the Governor General:

  • Ken MacKillop, Secretary to the Governor General;

that the committee allocate a minimum of 5 meetings to this study; and,

that the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Mario Beaulieu moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “after 3 years in the position” the following: “despite the Official Languages Act (OLA), whose purpose is to “ensure respect for English and French as the official languages of Canada and ensure equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions,” according to section 2(a) of the OLA, and to “advance the existence of a majority-French society in a Quebec where the future of French is assured,” according to section 2(b.2) of the OLA;”.

At 12:44 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 12:49 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The debate on the amendment continued.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mario Beaulieu and it was agreed to.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

At 1:04 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Madeleine Martin
Clerk of the committee