It was agreed, — That the committee proceed to sit in public.

At 3:50 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:01 p.m., the sitting resumed in public.

Brad Redekopp moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a) and (2), the committee order (a) the Department of Citizenship and Immigration to provide the clerk of the committee, in both official languages and within three weeks of the adoption of this order, and notwithstanding any non-disclosure agreements which might be applicable, with respect to each contract entered into with McKinsey & Company since January 1, 2011; (i) requests for tenders or other procurement requests related to each contract; (ii) tenders, bids, proposals or other applications received in respect of those procurement requests; (iii) contracts entered into, including any amendments thereto; (iv) all correspondence and electronic communications including emails, text messages, message app communications, and handwritten notes pertaining to these contracts; (v) statements of work performed by McKinsey & Company under each contract; (vi) all work product provided by McKinsey & Company under each contract; (vii) invoices provided by McKinsey & Company; (viii) records of all payments made to McKinsey & Company; (ix) the hourly and/or daily rates McKinsey & Company charged for each employee working under each contract; and (x) the names of project managers and/or project authorities from McKinsey & Company in relation to each contract, provided that these documents shall be circulated to the members of the committee forthwith upon receipt; and (b) McKinsey & Company to provide, to the clerk of the committee within three weeks of the adoption of this order, and notwithstanding any non-disclosure agreements which might be applicable, with respect to each contract entered into with the Department of Citizenship and Immigration and the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada since January 1, 2011, copies of (i) all records referred to in paragraph (a); (ii) all records concerning the details and descriptions of work performed under each contract; (iii) timesheets documenting work done under each contract; (iv) the hourly and/or daily rates McKinsey & Company charged for work performed under each contract; (v) the names of project managers and/or project authorities from McKinsey & Company in relation to each contract; (vi) all records concerning subcontracts issued by McKinsey & Company in relation to each contract, including tenders, contracts, or memoranda of understanding (including any amendments thereto), invoices, payments and evaluations, (vii) all correspondence and electronic communications including emails, text messages, message app communications, and handwritten notes pertaining to these contracts; and (viii) the complete client list of all organizations McKinsey & Company has worked with since January 1, 2011, provided that these documents shall be circulated to the members of the committee forthwith upon receipt and translation into both official languages; and that the committee report the foregoing to the House forthwith with a recommendation that it concur in and adopt the same, provided that (c) references to “clerk of the committee” be read as “Speaker of the House”; and (d) references to “circulated to the members of the committee” be read as “laid upon the Table of the House and stand referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration” .

Debate arose thereon.

At 4:21 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:27 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Sukh Dhaliwal, Fayçal El-Khoury, Arielle Kayabaga, Jenny Kwan, Marie-France Lalonde — 7;

NAYS: Tom Kmiec, Larry Maguire, Brad Redekopp, Michelle Rempel Garner — 4.

Jenny Kwan moved, — That the committee invite the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of National Defence and Minister of Justice and Attorney General to appear before the committee for two hours with their officials consistent with the Afghan motion passed on Friday, October 7, 2022, by the committee, and if the Ministers do not accept the invitation by Friday, February 3, 2023, the committee undertake to summon the Ministers to appear before the committee based on the committee schedule.

Debate arose thereon.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the motion inadmissible as there is no specific rule governing voluntary appearances by Members of the House of Commons before parliamentary committees, as outlined on page 982 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition, 2017. Members may appear before a committee if they wish and have been invited. If a Member of the House refuses an invitation to appear before a standing committee and the committee decides that such an appearance is necessary, it may so report to the House, and it will be up to the House to decide what measures should be taken.

Jenny Kwan moved, — That the committee invite the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of National Defence and Minister of Justice and Attorney General to appear before the committee for two hours with their officials consistent with the Afghan motion passed on Friday, October 7, 2022, by committee, and if the Ministers do not accept the invitation by Friday, February 3, 2023, that the matter be reported to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Sukh Dhaliwal, Fayçal El-Khoury, Arielle Kayabaga, Tom Kmiec, Jenny Kwan, Marie-France Lalonde, Larry Maguire, Brad Redekopp, Michelle Rempel Garner — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee invite the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of National Defence and Minister of Justice and Attorney General to appear before the committee for two hours with their officials consistent with the Afghan motion passed on Friday, October 7, 2022, by committee, and if the Ministers do not accept the invitation by Friday, February 3, 2023, that the matter be reported to the House so that appropriate measures can be taken.