CIMM Committee Meeting
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Minutes of Proceedings
Jean Daniel Jacob, André Côté and Ajay Patel made statements and answered questions.
At 4:33 p.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 4:38 p.m., the meeting resumed.
Tiffany MacLennan, Dilson Rassier, Kamaljit Lehal and Wei William Tao made statements and answered questions.
Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the implications for Canada of the measures announced by Donald Trump during the U.S. presidential campaign regarding the deportation of persons who are in the United States illegally, as well as on the Canadian federal government’s plan to ensure border security and compliance with federal immigration statutes and policies;
That the committee invite the following witnesses to appear:
- for two hours each, accompanied by senior officials from their respective departments:
- Marc Miller, Minister of Immigration and Citizenship; and
- Dominic Leblanc, Minister of Public Safety;
- for one hour each:
- Kirsten Hillman, Canadian Ambassador to the United States; and
- David L. Cohen, U.S. Ambassador to Canada;
- as well as any other witnesses the committee considers necessary, in accordance with the usual practices of the committee; and
That the committee prioritize this study and report its findings to the House.
Debate arose thereon.
Jenny Kwan moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Jenny Kwan — 1;
NAYS: Shafqat Ali, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Paul Chiang, Julie Dzerowicz, Fayçal El-Khoury, Tom Kmiec, Larry Maguire, Greg McLean, Brad Redekopp, Salma Zahid — 10.
Paul Chiang moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “statutes and policies” the following: “that the study consist of no less than four meetings”; by adding after the words “prioritize this study” the following: “alongside the study of the recent reforms to the international student program and the study of the issuance of passport to a human smuggler; that the committee”; and by adding after the words “to the House” the following: “and that pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government table a comprehensive response to the report”.
Debate arose thereon.
At 5:33 p.m., Brad Redekopp took the Chair.
At 5:38 p.m., Sukh Dhaliwal took the Chair.
At 5:45 p.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 11:08 a.m., on Thursday, December 5, 2024, the meeting resumed, with Brad Redekopp presiding.
The debate continued.
At 11:15 am., Sukh Dhaliwal took the Chair.
At 11:26 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), the meeting was suspended.
At 12:24 p.m., the meeting resumed.
Jenny Kwan moved, — That the motion be subamended by adding after the words “for Canada” the following: “and for undocumented people and people with temporary status in the United States”; by adding after the words “deportation of” the word “undocumented”; by adding after the word “person” the following: “and their family members including children who are US citizens”; to delete the word “illegally”; by adding after the word “United States” the following: “examine the proposal by U.S. president-elect Donald Trump to carry out the “largest deportation program in American history” of millions of undocumented residents of the U.S., including his stated intentions to declare a national emergency and deploy the U.S. military to carry out mass deportations to determine if the US still qualifies as a safe country for refugees; “; by adding before the words “the Canadian federal” the word “request”; by adding after the words “federal government” the words “to table their”; by adding after the words “statues and policies” the following: “and to examine that its in compliance with Canada’s obligations under the Charter and international law, including the 1951 Refugees Convention to which Canada is a signatory of for 55 years; and that the study takes into account this committee's report on Asylum Seekers at Canada's Border that recommended STCA exemptions for gender-based claims and claims from moratorium countries in recognition of the risk of harm these claimants face in the U.S. prior to the current deportation issues;”.
At 12:29 p.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 12:33 p.m., the meeting resumed.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that the subamendment moved by Jenny Kwan is inadmissible, because it did not try to amend the amendment presently debated.
The debate continued.
At 1:02 p.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 4:01 p.m., on Monday, December 9, 2024, the meeting resumed.
The debate continued.
Tom Kmiec moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Paul Chiang and it was agreed to on division.
Jenny Kwan moved, — That the motion be subamended by adding after the words “for Canada” the following: “and for undocumented people and people with temporary status in the United States”; by adding after the words “deportation of” the word “undocumented”; by adding after the word “person” the following: “and their family members including children who are US citizens”; to delete the word “illegally”; by adding after the word “United States” the following: “examine the proposal by U.S. president-elect Donald Trump to carry out the “largest deportation program in American history” of millions of undocumented residents of the U.S., including his stated intentions to declare a national emergency and deploy the U.S. military to carry out mass deportations to determine if the US still qualifies as a safe country for refugees; “; by adding before the words “the Canadian federal” the word “request”; by adding after the words “federal government” the words “to table their”; by adding after the words “statues and policies” the following: “and to examine that its in compliance with Canada’s obligations under the Charter and international law, including the 1951 Refugees Convention to which Canada is a signatory of for 55 years; and that the study takes into account this committee's report on Asylum Seekers at Canada's Border that recommended STCA exemptions for gender-based claims and claims from moratorium countries in recognition of the risk of harm these claimants face in the U.S. prior to the current deportation issues;”.
At 4:59 p.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 5:03 p.m., the meeting resumed.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled that the amendment moved by Jenny Kwan is inadmissible, because it try to amend the motion beyond the scope of the original motion.
Whereupon, Jenny Kwan appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Paul Chiang, Fayçal El-Khoury, Arielle Kayabaga, Tom Kmiec, Larry Maguire, Greg McLean, Brad Redekopp, Salma Zahid — 10;
NAYS: Jenny Kwan — 1.
The debate continued.
Paul Chiang moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Paul Chiang, Fayçal El-Khoury, Arielle Kayabaga, Tom Kmiec, Larry Maguire, Greg McLean, Brad Redekopp, Salma Zahid — 9;
NAYS: Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Jenny Kwan — 2.
At 5:09 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.