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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 75
Monday, October 16, 2023, 4:28 p.m. to 6:22 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Kody Blois, Chair (Liberal)

• Dave Epp for Lianne Rood (Conservative)
• Jean-Denis Garon for Yves Perron (Bloc Québécois)
House of Commons
• Jean-François Pagé, Legislative Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Daniel Farrelly, Analyst
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
• Dr. Mary Jane Ireland, Executive Director, Animal Health Directorate, Chief Veterinary Officer for Canada
• Joseph Melaschenko, Senior Counsel, Agriculture and Food Inspection Legal Services
Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
• Donald Boucher, Director General, Sector Development and Analysis Directorate
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, June 21, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-275, An Act to amend the Health of Animals Act (biosecurity on farms).

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The Chair called Clause 1.

On Clause 1,

Alistair MacGregor moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing line 6 on page 1 with the following:

“9.‍1 No person shall”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Alistair MacGregor and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 2;

NAYS: John Barlow, Ben Carr, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 9.

Ben Carr moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 1, be amended

(a) by replacing line 6 on page 1 with the following:

“9.‍1 No person shall, without having taken the applicable biosecurity measures,”

(b) by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 1 with the following:

“are kept, knowing that the failure to take those measures could result in the exposure of”

Debate arose thereon.

Alistair MacGregor moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “are kept, knowing that the failure to take those measures could result in the exposure of” with the following: “are kept, or take in any animal or thing, if their entering such a place or taking in the animal or thing could reasonably be expected to result in the exposure of”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Alistair MacGregor and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ben Carr, Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 3;

NAYS: John Barlow, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 8.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Ben Carr, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 1, be amended

(a) by replacing line 6 on page 1 with the following:

“9.‍1 No person shall, without having taken the applicable biosecurity measures,”

(b) by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 1 with the following:

“are kept, knowing that the failure to take those measures could result in the exposure of”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ben Carr and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ben Carr, Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 3;

NAYS: John Barlow, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 8.

Alistair MacGregor moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 1 with the following:

“are kept knowing that or being reckless as to whether entering such a place could reasonably result in the exposure of”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Alistair MacGregor and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Alistair MacGregor — 1;

NAYS: John Barlow, Ben Carr, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley, Leah Taylor Roy — 10.

John Barlow moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 1 with the following:

“are kept, or take in any animal or thing, if their entering such a place or taking in the animal or thing could reasonably be expected to result in the exposure of”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of John Barlow and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Barlow, Ben Carr, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Alistair MacGregor, Warren Steinley, Leah Taylor Roy — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 1, as amended, carried.

On Clause 2,

Leah Taylor Roy moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 2, be amended

(a) by replacing lines 2 and 3 on page 2 with the following:

“liable to a fine not exceeding twenty-five thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months,”

(b) by replacing lines 6 and 7 on page 2 with the following:

“ceeding one hundred thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Leah Taylor Roy and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ben Carr, Francis Drouin, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 6;

NAYS: John Barlow, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Warren Steinley — 5.

Leah Taylor Roy moved, — That Bill C-275, in Clause 2, be amended by deleting lines 9 to 15 on page 2.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Leah Taylor Roy and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ben Carr, Tim Louis, Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 4;

NAYS: John Barlow, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 7.

Clause 2, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Barlow, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 8;

NAYS: Ben Carr, Alistair MacGregor — 2.

The Title carried on division.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Barlow, Francis Drouin, Dave Epp, Jean-Denis Garon, Richard Lehoux, Tim Louis, Heath MacDonald, Warren Steinley — 8;

NAYS: Ben Carr, Alistair MacGregor, Leah Taylor Roy — 3.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House on division.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-275, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

At 6:22 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Stéphanie De Rome
Clerk of the committee