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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 102
Tuesday, March 19, 2024, 3:37 p.m. to 6:34 p.m.
In Camera
Presiding
Ken McDonald, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Natacha Kramski, Analyst
• Marlisa Tiedemann, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, January 18, 2022, the committee resumed its study of illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing.

The committee proceeded to give drafting instructions to the analysts for a draft report.

It was agreed, — That members of the committee submit to the clerk additional drafting instructions for the drafting of a report not later than 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, March 26, 2024.

It was agreed, — That the deadline for the submission of briefs be 4:00 p.m. on Friday, March 22, 2024.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $500, for the study of subject matter of Supplementary Estimates (C), 2023-24, be adopted.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $5,250, for the study of the plans to prevent violence during the 2024 elver fishing season, be adopted.

It was agreed, — That evidence received by the committee for its study of "plans to prevent violence during the 2024 elver fishing season” be deemed admissible evidence for the committee’s study of “illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing”.

It was agreed, — That future committee business be considered by the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure at a date to be decided by the Chair.

At 4:20 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:29 p.m., the sitting resumed in public.

Canada Border Services Agency
• Dominic Mallette, Regional Director General, Atlantic Region
• Cathy Toxopeus, Director General, Commercial Programs, Commercial and Trade Branch
Canadian Committee for a Sustainable Eel Fishery Inc.
• Genna Carey, President
• Stanley King, Spokesperson
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
• Parthi Muthukumarasamy, Executive Director, International Programs Directorate
• Kevin Urbanic, Director General, Ontario Operations
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• Sue Black, Criminal Operations Officer, H Division, Core Criminal Operations, Nova Scotia
• Darren Campbell, Criminal Operations Officer, J Division, New Brunswick
Shelburne Elver
• Zachary Townsend, Fisherman
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, February 8, 2024, the committee resumed its study of the plans to prevent violence during the 2024 elver fishing season.

Dominic Mallette, Parthi Muthukumarasamy and Sue Black made statements and answered questions.

At 5:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:34 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Genna Carey and Zachary Townsend made statements and, with Stanley King, answered questions.

Motion

Mel Arnold moved, — That, given that the carbon tax is increasing the cost of inputs for commercial fish harvesters, and that the government has committed to hiking the carbon tax on Monday, April 1st, 2024, the committee report to the House its recommendation to spike the hike, and axe the tax.

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Robert J. Morrissey moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Lisa Marie Barron, Serge Cormier, Caroline Desbiens, Brendan Hanley, Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway, Robert J. Morrissey — 7;

NAYS: Mel Arnold, Richard Bragdon, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small — 4.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Mel Arnold, — That, given that the carbon tax is increasing the cost of inputs for commercial fish harvesters, and that the government has committed to hiking the carbon tax on Monday, April 1st, 2024, the committee report to the House its recommendation to spike the hike, and axe the tax.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mel Arnold, Richard Bragdon, Rick Perkins, Clifford Small — 4;

NAYS: Lisa Marie Barron, Serge Cormier, Caroline Desbiens, Brendan Hanley, Ken Hardie, Mike Kelloway, Robert J. Morrissey — 7.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 6:34 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Geneviève Dubois-Richard
Clerk of the committee