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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 107
Thursday, May 23, 2024, 8:15 a.m. to 12:16 p.m.
Presiding
Heath MacDonald, Chair (Liberal)

• Vance Badawey for Chris Bittle (Liberal)
• Sean Casey for Salma Zahid (Liberal)
• Garnett Genuis for Dane Lloyd (Conservative)
• Angelo Iacono for Chris Bittle (Liberal)
• Damien C. Kurek for Doug Shipley (Conservative)
• Wayne Long for Iqwinder Gaheer (Liberal)
• Lloyd Longfield for Iqwinder Gaheer (Liberal)
• Marcus Powlowski for Salma Zahid (Liberal)
• Sonia Sidhu for Heath MacDonald (Liberal)
• Tony Van Bynen for Heath MacDonald (Liberal)
• Arnold Viersen for Glen Motz (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Sabrina Charland, Articling Student
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
• Hon. Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs
• Hon. Pablo Rodriguez, Minister of Transport
Canada Border Services Agency
• Aaron McCrorie, Vice-President, Intelligence and Enforcement
• Annie Beauséjour, Regional Director General, Quebec Region
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Tricia Geddes, Associate Deputy Minister
• Talal Dakalbab, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Crime Prevention Branch
Department of Transport
• Lisa Setlakwe, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Melanie Vanstone, Director General, Multi-Modal and Road Safety Programs
• Sean Rogers, Executive Director, Legislative, Regulatory and International Affairs
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• Matt Peggs, Regional Commander, Federal Policing, Central Region
• Bryan Larkin, Specialized Policing Services
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 23, 2023, the committee resumed its study of growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

Motion

Jennifer O'Connell moved, — That the committee proceed to the resuming of the debate on the amendment of Garnett Genuis to the subcommittee’s report moved on Monday, May 6, 2024.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7;

NAYS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4.

The debate continued on the amendment of Garnett Genuis.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to the appearance of the ministers for the study on the growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7.

The debate continued.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to the appearance of the ministers for the study on the growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7.

The debate continued.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to the appearance of the ministers for the study on the growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7.

The debate continued.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to the appearance of the ministers for the study on the growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7.

The debate continued.

At 9:15 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:24 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The Chair informed the committee of his resignation as Chair.

Accordingly, pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of a chair.

Election of a chair

Motion

Jennifer O'Connell moved, — That Ron McKinnon be elected Chair of the committee.

Motion

Glen Motz moved, — That Heath MacDonald be elected Chair of the committee.

The question was put on the motion of Jennifer O'Connell and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 7; NAYS: 4.

At 9:28 a.m., Ron McKinnon took the Chair.

The debate continued on the amendment of Garnett Genuis to the subcommittee’s report moved on Monday, May 6, 2024.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee proceed to the appearance of the ministers for the study on the growing problem of car thefts in Canada.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Frank Caputo, Garnett Genuis, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Alexandre Boulerice, Iqwinder Gaheer, Ron McKinnon, Kristina Michaud, Jennifer O'Connell, Salma Zahid — 7.

At 10:15 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:27 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The debate continued.

At 12:16 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Simon Larouche
Clerk of the committee