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Minutes of Proceedings
Conservative
Bloc Québécois
Alistair MacGregor moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study concerning the electoral interference and violent criminal activities carried out by agents of the Government of India, as identified by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians’ report and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police’s report from October 14, 2024, and the subsequent expulsion of six diplomats from the Government of India.
As part of this study, the committee hold no less than six meetings, ensuring an equal distribution of time for witnesses, and invite the following Ministers, senior officials, and expert witnesses from impacted communities and academia to provide briefings:- Mnister of Foreign Affairs, the Honourable Melanie Joly.
- Minister of Public Safety, the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc.
- RCMP Commissioner, Michael Duheme.
- National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Nathalie Drouin.
- Experts from Canada's South Asian community.
- Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown and any former leadership candidates of the 2022 Conservative Party Leadership race.
- National security subject matter experts.
At 9:30 a.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 9:48 a.m., the meeting resumed.
Jasraj Singh Hallan moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “National Security Specialists” the following: “Canadian Security Intelligence Service Director, Deputy Minister of Public Safety and Deputy Minister of Global Affairs Canada”.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.
Iqwinder Gaheer moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Global Affairs Canada” the following: “Witnesses to testify on the impact of disinformation campaigns.”.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study concerning the electoral interference and violent criminal activities carried out by agents of the Government of India, as identified by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians’ report and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police’s report from October 14, 2024, and the subsequent expulsion of six diplomats from the Government of India.
As part of this study, the committee hold no less than six meetings, ensuring an equal distribution of time for witnesses, and invite the following Ministers, senior officials, and expert witnesses from impacted communities and academia to provide briefings:- Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Honourable Melanie Joly.
- Minister of Public Safety, the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc.
- RCMP Commissioner, Michael Duheme.
- National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Nathalie Drouin.
- Experts from Canada's South Asian community.
- Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown and any former leadership candidates of the 2022 Conservative Party Leadership race.
- National security subject matter experts.
- Canadian Security Intelligence Service director, Deputy Minister of Public Safety and Deputy Minister of Global Affairs Canada.
- Witnesses to testify on the impact of disinformation campaigns.
Alistair MacGregor moved, — That, given the Royal Canadian Mounted Police report on violent criminal activities linked to agents of the Government of India from October 14, 2024, the Hogue Commission’s identification of foreign interference activities by Russia, Pakistan, China, and Iran, and the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians’ special report on Foreign Interference in Canada’s Democratic Processes and Institutions, the Chair reports to the House that the committee calls for all federal party leaders to apply for the appropriate security clearance level in the next 30 days in order to review classified information and take necessary actions to protect Canadians.
Debate arose thereon.
Dane Lloyd moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “and that we release the names of all Members of Parliament and all parliamentarians who are alleged to have interfered and knowingly colluded with foreign powers.” at the end.
Debate arose thereon.
Alistair MacGregor moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “we” with the words “the government” and tha the following words “while protecting national security and those who gathered the intelligence.” be added after “foreign powers”.
Debate arose thereon.
At 11:30 a.m., the meeting was suspended.
At 11:00 a.m., on Tuesday, October 22, 2024, the meeting resumed.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Alistair MacGregor moved which read as follows:
That, given the Royal Canadian Mounted Police report on violent criminal activities linked to agents of the Government of India from October 14, 2024, the Hogue Commission’s identification of foreign interference activities by Russia, Pakistan, China, and Iran, and the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians’ special report on Foreign Interference in Canada’s Democratic Processes and Institutions, the Chair reports to the House that the committee calls for all federal party leaders to apply for the appropriate security clearance level in the next 30 days in order to review classified information and take necessary actions to protect Canadians.
and of the amendment of Dane Lloyed moved which read as follows:
That the motion be amended by adding the words “and that we release the names of all Members of Parliament and all parliamentarians who are alleged to have interfered and knowingly colluded with foreign powers.” at the end.
and of the subamendment of Alistair MacGregor moved which read as follows:
That the motion be amended by replacing the word “we” with the words “the government” and that the following words “while protecting national security and those who gathered the intelligence.” be added after “foreign powers”.
Dane Lloyd moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Raquel Dancho, Melissa Lantsman, Dane Lloyd, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz — 5;
NAYS: Pam Damoff, Iqwinder Gaheer, Alistair MacGregor, Jennifer O'Connell, Brenda Shanahan, Salma Zahid — 6.
The debate continued
Raquel Dancho moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Raquel Dancho, Melissa Lantsman, Dane Lloyd, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz — 5;
NAYS: Pam Damoff, Iqwinder Gaheer, Alistair MacGregor, Jennifer O'Connell, Brenda Shanahan, Salma Zahid — 6.
The debate continued
At 1:08 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.