Bryan Gilvesy, Zita Botelho and Ralph Pentland made statements and answered questions.

Dan Mazier moved, — That given the statement made by Mr. Derek Hermanutz, Director General, Economic Analysis Directorate, for Environment and Climate Change Canada on Thursday, November 9, 2023, at the committee:

“I think we’re probably in a world where we could say with some rough analysis that up to one-third, potentially, of the emission reductions that we’re projecting to 2030 would come from carbon pricing”;

And given that Canada’s Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development has stated in their 2023 Fall Reports that:

“The federal government is not on track to meet the 2030 target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions”;

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee order the production of Environment and Climate Change Canada’s complete analysis including all economic modelling, referred to by Mr. Derek Hermanutz, of the government’s emission reduction projections specifically from the carbon tax, no later than Friday, December 8, 2023.

Debate arose thereon.

At 11:50 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

The debate continued.

A point of order was raised regarding the procedural admissibility of the proposed amendment.

At 11:55 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:56 a.m., the sitting resumed.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the amendment admissible.

At 12:01 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:02 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Shafqat Ali, Taylor Bachrach, Sophie Chatel, Gérard Deltell, Michael Kram, Branden Leslie, Lloyd Longfield, Dan Mazier, Monique Pauzé, Leah Taylor Roy, Adam van Koeverden — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That given the statement made by Mr. Derek Hermanutz, Director General, Economic Analysis Directorate, for Environment and Climate Change Canada on Thursday, November 9, 2023, at the committee:

“I think we’re probably in a world where we could say with some rough analysis that up to one-third, potentially, of the emission reductions that we’re projecting to 2030 would come from carbon pricing”;

And given that Canada’s Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development has stated in their 2023 Fall Reports that:

“The federal government is not on track to meet the 2030 target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions”;

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee request the production of Environment and Climate Change Canada’s complete analysis including all economic modelling, referred to by Mr. Derek Hermanutz, of the government’s emission reduction projections specifically from the carbon tax, no later than Wednesday, December 13, 2023.

At 12:10 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Beatrix Beisner, Diane Orihel, Wanda McFadyen and Marc Hudon made statements and answered questions.

At 12:40 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

At 1:06 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 1:18 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Taylor Bachrach moved, — That, given the importance of freshwater ecosystem services to the prosperity, sustainability, and resilience of British Columbian communities, and given the increasingly severe impacts of climate change including drought, wildfires, and floods, the committee urge the federal government to work with the Government of British Columbia to establish a $1 billion watershed security fund; that the Committee report this to the House; and that the government table a written response.

Debate arose thereon.

On motion of Taylor Bachrach, it was agreed, — That the meeting be adjourned and that the debate on the motion resume on Tuesday, December 5, 2023.