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Minutes of Proceedings
The witnesses answered questions.
The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 148 of the Bill.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 148 to 155 inclusive carried severally on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Yvonne Jones, Vivianne Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 9;
NAYS: Ted Falk, Mario Simard — 2.
On Clause 156,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 156, be amended by adding after line 17 on page 114 the following:“(6.1) Section 122 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (9):”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
Clause 156, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 157 to 168 inclusive carried severally on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Vivianne Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
Clause 169 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
On Clause 170,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 170, be amended(a) by replacing lines 15 and 16 on page 118 with the following:
“170 (1) The Act is amended by adding the following after section 142.01:”
(b) by deleting lines 1 to 4 on page 119;
(c) by adding after line 22 on page 119 the following:
(2) Subsection 142.011(3) of the Act is amended by adding the following after paragraph (d):
(e) conditions established under the Impact Assessment Act, including those established under section 64 of that Act or by regulations made under paragraph 112(1)(a.2) of that Act; and
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Shannon Stubbs — 4.
On new Clause 170.1,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49 be amended by adding before line 23 on page 119 the following:“170.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after the heading “Impact Assessment” after section 142.011:”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
On Clause 170,
Jeremy Patzer moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 170, be amended by deleting line 23 on page 119 to line 12 on page 120.After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Jeremy Patzer and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Shannon Stubbs — 4;
NAYS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7.
“review panel is to make recommendations respecting a”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Shannon Stubbs — 4.
“suivi ou un plan de gestion adaptatif, la Régie fournit à”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
On new Clause 170.2,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 122 the following:“170.2 Sections 142.02 and 142.03 of the Act are replaced by the following:”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
On Clause 170,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 170, be amended by replacing, in the French version, line 17 on page 123 with the following:“lai précisé en vertu de l’article 100 de la Loi sur”
The question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Shannon Stubbs — 4.
Clause 170, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 171 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 172 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 173 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 9;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Mario Simard — 2.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 174 to 184 inclusive carried severally on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Vivianne Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10; NAYS:
Mario Simard — 1.
On Clause 185,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 185, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 36 on page 134 with the following:“(4) The Regulator and the appropriate authority may approve the unit agreement if all the royalty owners and all the working interest owners in the transboundary pool are parties to it; the Regulator and the appropriate authority may approve the unit operating agreement if all the working interest owners in the transboundary pool are parties to it.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 8;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Mario Simard — 3.
“sons ensure that the Regulator and the appropriate au-”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
Clause 185, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
Clause 186 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
Clause 187 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 188 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 189 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
Clause 190 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 191 to 209 inclusive carried severally on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Vivianne Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 210 to 219 inclusive carried severally on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Yvonne Jones, Vivianne Lapointe, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara, Shannon Stubbs — 10;
NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.
At 3:39 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:40 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Shannon Stubbs moved, — Given that,
A. The Prime Minister of Greece recently stated that Greece would “of course” be interested in purchasing Canadian LNG, noting that Greece is “a big entry point for LNG, not just for the Greek market, but also for the Balkans, [and] for Eastern Europe,” and that “Theoretically, we could even supply Ukraine”; B. The leaders of Germany and Japan have made similar remarks during their state visits to Canada; C. The Minister of Energy and Natural Resources recently stated in a CTV interview that “We are not interested in investing in LNG facilities. That’s the role of the private sector. They need to assess the business case and make the investments”; D. The private sector has assessed the business case for Canadian LNG positively and has repeatedly tried to invest in LNG in Canada, evidenced by the fact that there have been 18 proposals for LNG projects submitted to the federal government; and E. Despite this, the Liberal government has consistently delayed and denied these LNG projects, and, as a result, the only LNG project currently under construction in Canada is one that was approved by the previous Conservative government. The committee: 1. Report its concern regarding this matter to the House of Commons; and 2. Invite the Minister of Energy and Natural Resources to testify before the committee regarding his comments for no less than two hours, on or before Monday, April 18, 2024.Debate arose thereon.
Yvonne Jones moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Shannon Stubbs — 4.
The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
On Clause 220,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 220, be amended by(a) replacing line 14 on page 175 with the following:
“of the other Act and section 170.1 of this Act are in”
(b) replacing line 10 on page 179 with the following:
“of the other Act and section 62.1 of this Act are in”
(c) replacing line 31 on page 179 with the following:
“the other Act and section 170.1 of this Act are in”
(d) replacing line 33 on page 180 with the following:
“the other Act and section 62.1 of this Act are in”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
Clause 220, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Shannon Stubbs — 5.
On Clause 221,
After debate, the question was put on Clause 221, and the following division was recorded:
YEAS: John Aldag.
The vote was interrupted by a Point of Order from Julie Dabrusin.
At 5:16 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 5:27 p.m., the sitting resumed.
It was agreed, by unanimous consent, to reconsider Clause 221 to allow Julie Dabrusin to move an amendment to the Clause.
At 5:33 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.