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Minutes of Proceedings
Leslyn Lewis moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1) and (2), in relation to the committee’s study examining the role of McKinsey & Company in the creation and beginnings of the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB):
a) summonses be served on Dominic Barton, past Global Managing Director of McKinsey & Co.; Andrew Pickersgill, past Managing Partner of the Canadian Practice of McKinsey & Co.; Janice Fukakusa, Inaugural Board Chair of the CIB; Michael Sabia, past Board Chair of the CIB and past Member of the Advisory Council on Economic Growth; Bruno Guilmette, past Interim Chief Investment Officer and Board Director of the CIB; and Tamara Vrooman, Board Chair of the CIB, requiring each of them to appear at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair, but no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023; and
b) the Committee strongly urges Annie Ropar, past Chief Financial Officer of the CIB, and the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Infrastructure, to appear no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023.
Debate arose thereon.
On motion of Xavier Barsalou-Duval, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Chair of the CIB” the following: “That the names of Steven Robins, Head of Strategy ; Aneil Jaswal - Director, Sector Strategies and Bill Morneau, former minister of Finance”.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Leslyn Lewis, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1) and (2), in relation to the committee’s study examining the role of McKinsey & Company in the creation and beginnings of the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB):
a) summonses be served on Dominic Barton, past Global Managing Director of McKinsey & Co.; Andrew Pickersgill, past Managing Partner of the Canadian Practice of McKinsey & Co.; Janice Fukakusa, Inaugural Board Chair of the CIB; Michael Sabia, past Board Chair of the CIB and past Member of the Advisory Council on Economic Growth; Bruno Guilmette, past Interim Chief Investment Officer and Board Director of the CIB; and Tamara Vrooman, Board Chair of the CIB, Steven Robins, Head of Strategy ; Aneil Jaswal, Director, Sector Strategies and Hon. Bill Morneau, Former Minister of Finance, requiring each of them to appear at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair, but no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023; and
b) the Committee strongly urges Annie Ropar, past Chief Financial Officer of the CIB, and the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Infrastructure, to appear no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023.
On motion of Taylor Bachrach, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Thursday, May 11, 2023” the following: “c) that the study comprise a total of four meetings in addition to the Tuesday, May 2, 2023 meeting, with a maximum of six witnesses per meeting.”.
At 12:09 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:18 p.m., the sitting resumed.The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Leslyn Lewis, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1) and (2), in relation to the committee’s study examining the role of McKinsey & Company in the creation and beginnings of the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB):
a) summonses be served on Dominic Barton, past Global Managing Director of McKinsey & Co.; Andrew Pickersgill, past Managing Partner of the Canadian Practice of McKinsey & Co.; Janice Fukakusa, Inaugural Board Chair of the CIB; Michael Sabia, past Board Chair of the CIB and past Member of the Advisory Council on Economic Growth; Bruno Guilmette, past Interim Chief Investment Officer and Board Director of the CIB; and Tamara Vrooman, Board Chair of the CIB, Steven Robins, Head of Strategy ; Aneil Jaswal, Director, Sector Strategies and Hon. Bill Morneau, Former Minister of Finance, requiring each of them to appear at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair, but no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023;
b) the Committee strongly urges Annie Ropar, past Chief Financial Officer of the CIB, and the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Infrastructure, to appear no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023; and
c) that the study comprise a total of four meetings in addition to the Tuesday, May 2, 2023 meeting, with a maximum of six witnesses per meeting..
The debate continued.
Vance Badawey moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Vance Badawey, George Chahal, Angelo Iacono, Jennifer O'Connell, Churence Rogers — 5;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Xavier Barsalou-Duval, Chris Lewis, Leslyn Lewis, Dan Muys, Mark Strahl — 6.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Leslyn Lewis, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1) and (2), in relation to the committee’s study examining the role of McKinsey & Company in the creation and beginnings of the Canada Infrastructure Bank (CIB):
a) summonses be served on Dominic Barton, past Global Managing Director of McKinsey & Co.; Andrew Pickersgill, past Managing Partner of the Canadian Practice of McKinsey & Co.; Janice Fukakusa, Inaugural Board Chair of the CIB; Michael Sabia, past Board Chair of the CIB and past Member of the Advisory Council on Economic Growth; Bruno Guilmette, past Interim Chief Investment Officer and Board Director of the CIB; and Tamara Vrooman, Board Chair of the CIB, Steven Robins, Head of Strategy ; Aneil Jaswal, Director, Sector Strategies and Hon. Bill Morneau, Former Minister of Finance, requiring each of them to appear at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair, but no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023;
b) the Committee strongly urges Annie Ropar, past Chief Financial Officer of the CIB, and the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Infrastructure, to appear no later than Thursday, May 11, 2023; and
c) that the study comprise a total of four meetings in addition to the Tuesday, May 2, 2023 meeting, with a maximum of six witnesses per meeting.
Jennifer O'Connell moved, — Prior to the adoption of the motion and the associated summons being issued, the subcommittee be convened to discuss the scheduling of meeting, the construction of panels for the study, and to report back to the committee with the results of the conversation. And to add Mr. Patrick Brown, mayor of Brampton to the list of summons.
At 1:03 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.