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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 108
Wednesday, May 22, 2024, 5:04 p.m. to 6:32 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ali Ehsassi, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Allison Goody, Analyst
• Billy Joe Siekierski, Analyst
As an individual
• Abdirahman Ahmed
Cuso International
• Nicolas Moyer, Chief Executive Officer
Food for the Hungry
• Jonathan Papoulidis, Vice-President
French National Research Institute for Sustainable Development
• Benjamin Sultan, Director of Research
International Rescue Committee
• Modou Diaw, Regional Vice-President for West Africa
United Nations World Food Programme
• Edith Heines, Director of Programme, Policy and Guidance
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, January 29, 2024, the committee resumed its study of Canada’s approach to Africa.

Benjamin Sultan, Modou Diaw and Edith Heines made statements and answered questions.

Motion

Heather McPherson moved, — That, given the failure of Global Affairs Canada to produce the documents requested by this committee on Monday, February 12, 2024, and the letter to the committee from the Deputy Minister dated Wednesday, March 13, 2024, requesting further instruction, the Chair instruct the clerk to publish the letter and annex received from Global Affairs Canada on Canada’s arms exports to Israel on the public committee webpage;

That the committee instruct Global Affairs Canada to provide the following:

  1. details on all current open export and brokering permits for military goods and technology to Israel, without redaction for commercial confidentiality, as the committee requested in its motion of Monday, February 12, 2024;
  2. details on all export or brokering permits for military goods and technology to Israel, whether open or expired, dating back to 2020, not 2006 as the committee requested in its motion of Monday, February 12, 2024;
  3. reissue the annex without redactions for commercial confidentiality, as the committee motion specified;

That these details be provided within 30 days of adoption of this motion; and

That, once received, these documents be made public on the committee website.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “given the failure of Global Affairs Canada to produce” with the words “given Global Affairs Canada has yet to produce in full”; by replacing the words “That these details” with the words “That this information be provided on a continuing basis as it becomes available, with the first batch of information to”; by deleting the word “and” between the words “30 days of adoption of this motion” and the words “That, once received”; and by adding after the words “made public of the committee website.” the following: “; and that once the documents outlines in sections a) to c) of this motion are received, the committee’s motion of Monday, February 12, 2024, be deemed completed.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, given Global Affairs Canada has yet to produce in full the documents requested by this committee on Monday, February 12, 2024, and the letter to the committee from the Deputy Minister dated Wednesday, March 13, 2024, requesting further instruction, the Chair instruct the clerk to publish the letter and annex received from Global Affairs Canada on Canada’s arms exports to Israel on the public committee webpage;

That the committee instruct Global Affairs Canada to provide the following:

  1. details on all current open export and brokering permits for military goods and technology to Israel, without redaction for commercial confidentiality, as the Committee requested in its motion of Monday, February 12, 2024;
  2. details on all export or brokering permits for military goods and technology to Israel, whether open or expired, dating back to 2020, not 2006 as the Committee requested in its motion of Monday, February 12, 2024;
  3. reissue the annex without redactions for commercial confidentiality, as the committee motion specified;

That this information be provided on a continuous basis as it becomes available, with the first batch of information to be provided within 30 days of adoption of this motion;

That, once received, these documents be made public on the committee website; and

That, once the documents outlined in sections a) to c) of this motion are received, the committee’s motion of Monday, February 12, 2024, be deemed completed.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:53 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:55 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Nicholas Moyer, Jonathan Papoulidis and Abdirahman Ahmed made statements and answered questions.

At 6:32 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Danielle Widmer
Clerk of the committee