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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 6
Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 3:49 p.m. to 5:48 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Sean Casey, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Paul Cardegna, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Sonya Norris, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Brendan Hanley moved on Monday, February 7, 2022, which read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee, in recognition of exhaustion and burnout amongst health care professionals, undertake a study on how the federal government can facilitate the recruitment and retention of physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners and other health care providers to the public health care system, including a focus on rural and northern communities; that this study be prioritized by the committee in the 44th Parliament; that the committee invite experts and representatives to appear; that the committee hold a minimum of eight meetings with witnesses on this study; that the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House; and that pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request a comprehensive response to the report by the government.

and of the amendment of Don Davies moved on Monday, February 7, 2022, which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by adding after the words “that the committee hold a minimum of eight meetings with witnesses on this study” the following: “and that each party be entitled to an equal amount of witnesses”.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Amendment

Mike Lake moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “eight” with the word “six”, and that the motion be amended by adding after the words “meetings with witnesses on this study;” the following: “that witnesses for this study be allocated in the following fashion: one third for the Liberal Party members of committee, one third for the Conservative Party members of committee, one sixth for the Bloc Québécois member of committee, and one sixth for the New Democratic Party member of committee;”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Lake and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee, in recognition of exhaustion and burnout amongst health care professionals, undertake a study on how the federal government can facilitate the recruitment and retention of physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners and other health care providers to the public health care system, including a focus on rural and northern communities; that this study be prioritized by the committee in the 44th Parliament; that the committee invite experts and representatives to appear; that the committee hold a minimum of six meetings with witnesses on this study; that witnesses for this study be allocated in the following fashion: one third for the Liberal Party members of committee, one third for the Conservative Party members of committee, one sixth for the Bloc Québécois member of committee, and one sixth for the New Democratic Party member of committee; that the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House; and that pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request a comprehensive response to the report by the government.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Luc Berthold moved on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, which read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on children’s health and the recent impact the pandemic had on children, and that:

  1. the study include, but not be limited, to addressing health care service backlogs affecting children, addressing inter-provincial barriers for research, data collection and sharing on children’s health, addressing children’s nutritional needs, addressing shortages of qualified health care workers capable of dealing with children’s health issues in order to find potential solutions;
  2. the study include a focus on disparities in access to services for rural, Indigenous, racialized, and lower income communities;
  3. the study consist of a minimum of six witness meetings;
  4. the Minister of Health be invited to appear for one of these meetings; and
  5. the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House.

and of the amendment of Don Davies moved on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by replacing the words “3. the study consist of a minimum of six witness meetings” with the words “3. the study consist of a minimum of six witness meetings, with each party entitled to an equal number of witnesses”.

Debate continued.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Amendment

Mike Lake moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “3. the study consist of a minimum of six witness meetings;” the following: “4. that witnesses for this study be allocated in the following fashion: one third for the Liberal Party members of the committee; one third for the Conservative Party members of the committee; one sixth for the Bloc Québécois member of the committee; and one sixth for the New Democratic Party member of the committee;”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Lake and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on children’s health and the recent impact the pandemic had on children and that:

  1. the study include, but not be limited, to addressing health care service backlogs affecting children, addressing inter-provincial barriers for research, data collection and sharing on children’s health, addressing children’s nutritional needs, addressing shortages of qualified health care workers capable of dealing with children’s health issues, in order to find potential solutions;
  2. the study include a focus on disparities in access to services for rural, Indigenous, racialized, and lower income communities;
  3. the study consist of a minimum of six witness meetings;
  4. witnesses for this study be allocated in the following fashion: one third for the Liberal Party members of the committee; one third for the Conservative Party members of the committee; one sixth for the Bloc Québécois member of the committee; and one sixth for the New Democratic Party member of the committee;
  5. the Minister of Health be invited to appear for one of these meetings; and
  6. the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House.
Motion

Luc Thériault moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study to follow up on the improvements that have been put in place to tighten Health Canada's rules and improve oversight of medical devices (breast implants) in 2018 and assess the feasibility of establishing a central breast implant traceability registry that would make it mandatory for practitioners who implant, remove, or replace breast implants to enter certain data into the registry, and that:

  1. the committee hold a minimum of two meetings with witnesses;
  2. the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House; and
  3. pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request the government to submit a detailed response to the report.
Amendment

Luc Thériault moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “two” with the words “four”.

A point of order was raised as to the procedural acceptability of the proposed motion.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

A member cannot amend their own motion without unanimous consent.

Luc Thériault requested unanimous consent to amend his motion and the request was denied.

Debate continued.

At 4:43 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:12 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Luc Berthold, Don Davies, Stephen Ellis, Brendan Hanley, Majid Jowhari, Shelby Kramp-Neuman, Mike Lake, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Adam van Koeverden — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

It was agreed, — that, notwithstanding the motion adopted on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, the committee meet on Monday, February 14, 2022, to continue its study on the emergency situation facing Canadians in light of the COVID-19 pandemic and hold a briefing from the analyst including a summary of evidence received during the 43rd Parliament.

It was agreed, — That the committee meet on Wednesday, February 16, 2022, to continue its study on Canada's health workforce.

It was agreed, — That, in relation to the studies of the emergency situation facing Canadians in light of the COVID-19 pandemic, of Canada's health workforce, of children's health and of the oversight of medical devices (breast implants), briefs of no more than 2,000 words be accepted.

It was agreed, — That, in relation to the study of Canada's health workforce, parties submit preliminary lists of witnesses to the clerk by 5:00 p.m. (ET) on Thursday, February 10, 2022.

At 5:48 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Naaman Sugrue
Clerk of the Committee