INDU Committee Meeting
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Minutes of Proceedings
The witnesses answered questions.
The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
Rick Perkins moved, — That the committee summon the following witnesses to speak on matters related to allegations of conflicts of interest at Sustainable Development and Technology Canada:
- Veena Bhullar, former liaison between ISED and SDTC,
- Andrew Noseworhty, assistant deputy minister on clean technologies,
- Navdeep Bains, former Minister of Innovation, Sciences and Industry, and
- Gianluca Cairo, former chief of staff to the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry;
and that the witnesses be asked to appear at a time determined by the Chair but no later than June 7, 2024.
Debate arose thereon.
Ryan Turnbull moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Vance Badawey, Iqwinder Gaheer, Sonia Sidhu, Ryan Turnbull, Tony Van Bynen — 5;
NAYS: Jean-Denis Garon, Bernard Généreux, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 6.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Rick Perkins.
Ryan Turnbull moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “(b) Andrew Noseworthy, assistant deputy minister on clean technologies,”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull and it was agreed to.
The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Jean-Denis Garon, Bernard Généreux, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 6;
NAYS: Vance Badawey, Iqwinder Gaheer, Sonia Sidhu, Ryan Turnbull, Tony Van Bynen — 5.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
ORDERED, — That the committee summon the following witnesses to speak on matters related to allegations of conflicts of interest at Sustainable Development and Technology Canada:
- Veena Bhullar, former liaison between ISED and SDTC,
- Navdeep Bains, former Minister of Innovation, Sciences and Industry, and
- Gianluca Cairo, former chief of staff to the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry;
and that the witnesses be asked to appear at a time determined by the chair but no later than June 7, 2024.
The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 2 of the Bill.
(a) by deleting lines 39 to 42 on page 5.
(b) by adding after line 25 on page 44 the following:
“(c.1) subject to sections 94 and 95, pay a penalty; or”
(c) by replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 45 with the following:
“Commissioner must decide whether to impose a penalty on the organization:”
(d) by replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 46 with the following:
“(3) The Commissioner must not impose a penalty on an organization if the Commis‐”
(e) by replacing lines 14 to 37 on page 46 with the following:
“95 (1) The Commissioner may, by order, impose a penalty on an organization if
(a) the organization is given the opportunity to make representations; and
(b) the Commissioner determines that imposing the penalty is appropriate.”
(f) by replacing line 14 on page 47 with the following:
“amount of a penalty, the Commissioner must take the follow‐”
(g) by replacing line 14 on page 49 with the following:
“and subsection 99(1), other than the power to make an order under 95(1).”
(h) by replacing line 20 on page 49 to line 34 on page 50 with the following:
“Judicial Review
101 (1) If an application is made for judicial review of a decision of the Commissioner under this Act, or of any person to whom the Commissioner has delegated any of their powers, duties or functions, the Commissioner is the respondent in respect of the application.
(2) The costs of the Commissioner are in the discretion of the court but the Commissioner may not be ordered to pay the costs of any party.”
(i) by deleting lines 1 to 15 on page 51.
(j) by replacing lines 23 to 29 on page 51 with the following:
“after the day on which the individual becomes aware of the conviction.
(4) The action may be”
(k) by deleting lines 17 and 18 on page 55.
(l) by replacing line 22 on page 55 with the following:
“this Act.”
(m) by deleting lines 25 and 26 on page 56.
The debate continued.
Rick Perkins moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing subparagraph (2)(i) with the following:
“(i) by replacing lines 5 to 15 on page 51 with the following: “fered as a result of the contravention.””.
Debate arose thereon.
At 11:29 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:41 a.m., the sitting resumed.
At 12:39, pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.
At 12:55 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.