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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 44
Thursday, November 17, 2022, 3:34 p.m. to 4:50 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Joël Lightbound, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
• Marie-Hélène Sauvé, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Sarah Lemelin-Bellerose, Analyst
• Scott McTaggart, Analyst
Prairies Economic Development Canada
• Matthew Whitson, Senior Advisor
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, June 1, 2022, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-235, An Act respecting the building of a green economy in the Prairies.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1 (short title) was postponed.

The Chair called Clause 2.

On Clause 2,

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 12 on page 1 with the following:

Minister means the minister responsible for economic development in the Prairie provinces. (ministre)”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Clause 2, as amended, carried.

On Clause 3,

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 1 with the following:

“ister of the Environment, the Minister of Transport, the Minister of Industry, the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, the”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 15 to 17 on page 1 with the following:

“Minister of Finance and the Minister of Natural Resources, develop a framework to coordi-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 2 with the following:

“and with municipalities, Indigenous governing bodies, the private sector”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to on division.

Rick Perkins moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 6 on page 2 the following:

“(2.1) The consultation process provided for under subsection (2) is only required if such a consultation process is not already provided for under any other Act of Parliament or any Act of a province or by-law of a municipality.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rick Perkins and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Michael Kram, Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 6;

NAYS: Han Dong, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Andy Fillmore, Iqwinder Gaheer, Viviane Lapointe — 5.

Ryan Williams moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 14 to 17 on page 2 with the following:

“(b) fostering job creation in traditional energy industries in the Prairies and allowing more exporting of Canadian oil and natural gas to prevent carbon leakage;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was contrary to the principle of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 2 with the following:

“(b) fostering job creation and economic prosperity, as evidenced by supporting outcomes, in regions”

By unanimous consent, Andy Fillmore moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “economic prosperity, as evidenced by supporting outcomes, in regions” with the following: “skills transfer, as evidenced by increased employment, in Prairie regions”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore, as amended, and it was agreed to.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing, in the English version, line 16 on page 2 with the following:

“them to build a net-zero emissions green economy and”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Rick Perkins moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 2 with the following:

“mental management of the boreal forest, and projects that involve natural gas, liquefied natural gas, oil drilling and pipeline transportation to ensure that more of Canada’s world-leading environmentally and socially responsible oil and gas reaches foreign markets to replace higher-emission energy sources produced under lower human rights standards;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:

That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended

(a) by replacing lines 22 and 23 on page 2 with the following:

“make use of new sources of energy;”

(b) by adding after line 34 on page 2 the following:

“(4) The projects prioritized under paragraph 3(c) must not make use of nuclear energy.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse — 2;

NAYS: Han Dong, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Andy Fillmore, Iqwinder Gaheer, Michael Kram, Viviane Lapointe, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 9.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 2 with the following:

“make use of all sources of energy, including nuclear”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Rick Perkins moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 24 on page 2 with the following:

“(d) supporting the continued development of clean energy in fields such as agricul-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rick Perkins and it was agreed to on division.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 32 on page 2 with the following:

“(f) preparing infrastructure projects, including large water projects, that facilitate”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Han Dong, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Andy Fillmore, Iqwinder Gaheer, Viviane Lapointe — 5;

NAYS: Michael Kram, Sébastien Lemire, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 6.

Clause 3, as amended, carried.

On Clause 4,

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 35 on page 2 with the following:

“4 (1) Within 12 months after the day on which this Act”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Han Dong, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Andy Fillmore, Iqwinder Gaheer, Viviane Lapointe, Sébastien Lemire — 6;

NAYS: Michael Kram, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 5.

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2 on page 3 with the following:

“(2) The Minister must publish the report on the departmental website within 10 days after the re-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

Clause 4, as amended, carried.

On Clause 5,

Andy Fillmore moved, — That Bill C-235, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 3 with the following:

“of Transport, the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Natural Resources, prepare a”

By unanimous consent, Andy Fillmore moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words “of Transport,” the following: “the Minister of Industry,”

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Andy Fillmore and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment of Andy Fillmore, as amended, and it was agreed to.

Clause 5, as amended, carried.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried.

The Title carried.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-235, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

At 4:50 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Michael MacPherson
Clerk of the committee