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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Industry and Technology (INDU)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 119
Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 5:00 p.m. to 8:18 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Joël Lightbound, Chair (Liberal)

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• Angelo Iacono for Francesco Sorbara (Liberal)
• Richard Martel for Brad Vis (Conservative)
• Pierre Paul-Hus for Ryan Williams (Conservative)
• Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc Québécois)
• Mario Simard (Bloc Québécois)
House of Commons
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
• Jean-François Pagé, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Dana Fan, Analyst
• Sarah Lemelin-Bellerose, Analyst
Development and Deployment of ELYSIS Technology at Rio Tinto and Alcoa Facilities
Rio Tinto
• Jérôme Pécresse, Chief Executive, Aluminium
• Nigel Steward, Chief Scientist
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, March 18, 2024, the committee commenced its study of development and deployment of ELYSIS technology at Rio Tinto and Alcoa facilities.

Jérôme Pécresse made a statement and with Nigel Steward, answered questions.

At 5:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

At 6:00 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:23 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Bill C-27, An Act to enact the Consumer Privacy Protection Act, the Personal Information and Data Protection Tribunal Act and the Artificial Intelligence and Data Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts
Department of Industry
• Mark Schaan, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector
• Samir Chhabra, Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch
• Runa Angus, Senior Director, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector
Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, April 24, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-27, An Act to enact the Consumer Privacy Protection Act, the Personal Information and Data Protection Tribunal Act and the Artificial Intelligence and Data Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts.

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Brian Masse, — That Bill C-27, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 16 and 17 on page 3 with the following:

“modify personal information to ensure that no individual”

The debate continued.

Ryan Turnbull moved, — That Motion NDP-2, proposing to amend Clause 2 of Bill C-27 by replacing lines 16 and 17 on page 3, be amended by replacing the proposed text with the following:

“modify personal information to ensure that there is no reasonably foreseeable risk in the circumstances that an individual”.

By unanimous consent, after debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Ryan Turnbull and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the amendment of Brian Masse, as amended, and it was agreed to.

Bernard Généreux moved, — That Bill C-27, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing, in the French version, lines 4 and 5 on page 4 with the following:

“nels afin qu'un individu ne puisse être identifié directement, sans pour autant en éliminer le risque. (de-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Bernard Généreux and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Iqwinder Gaheer, Jean-Denis Garon, Bernard Généreux, Angelo Iacono, Viviane Lapointe, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Ryan Turnbull, Tony Van Bynen, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Rick Perkins moved, — That Bill C-27, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 5 the following:

“lawful authority means authority under a provision of any Act or regulation other than section 33, 43 or 44 or subsection 47(1) that is exercised in exigent or prescribed circumstances in which personal information would not attract a reasonable expectation of privacy. (légitime)”

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, by unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Ryan Turnbull moved, — That Bill C-27, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 5 the following:

“lawful authority means authority exercised by a government institution or part of a government institution where one or more of the following criteria are met:

(a) there are exigent circumstances;

(b) it is pursuant to a reasonable law (other than section 33, 43 or 44 or subsection 47(1)); or

(c) it is pursuant to common law authority where personal information would not attract a reasonable expectation of privacy. (légitime)”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Iqwinder Gaheer, Jean-Denis Garon, Bernard Généreux, Angelo Iacono, Viviane Lapointe, Brian Masse, Rick Perkins, Ryan Turnbull, Tony Van Bynen, Brad Vis, Ryan Williams — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Brad Vis moved, — That Bill C-27, in Clause 2, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 5 the following:

“minor means an individual under 18 years of age. (mineur)”

Debate arose thereon.

At 8:18 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Miriam Burke
Clerk of the committee