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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 122
Tuesday, June 4, 2024, 3:59 p.m. to 5:04 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Kevin Waugh, Vice-Chair (Conservative)

House of Commons
• Michelle Legault, Legislative Clerk
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Gabrielle de Billy Brown, Analyst
• Liane Tanguay, Analyst
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Rachael Thomas gave notice of the following motion:

Given that,

The CBC receives $1.4 billion from taxpayers;

The CBC holds the rights to broadcast the NHL playoffs;

The CBC chose not to broadcast the Edmonton Oilers game that sent them to the Stanley Cup finals;

The committee calls on the CBC to commit to broadcasting all Stanley Cup final games and report this finding to the House.

Department of Canadian Heritage
• Danielle Labbé, Manager, Human Rights
• Blair McMurren, Director General, Strategic Policy and International Affairs
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, November 22, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-316, An Act to amend the Department of Canadian Heritage Act (Court Challenges Program).

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 3 of the Bill.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Taleeb Noormohamed, as amended, — That Bill C-316, in Clause 3, be amended by

(a) replacing lines 19 to 21 on page 2 with the following:

“5.1 (1) The independent organization responsible for administering the program referred to in section 7.1 of this Act and paragraph 43(1)(c) of the Official Languages Act shall, each year, submit to”

(b) replacing line 28 on page 2 with the following:

“ous year and any outreach and promotional activities that were conducted with groups affected by these cases.”

The committee resumed consideration of the subamendment of Rachael Thomas, — That the amendment, as amended, be amended by adding after the words “ous year” the following:

“and financial performance of the program, as well as a list of all the cases that received funding, and the amount provided for each case.”.

The question was put on the subamendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 4;

NAYS : Niki Ashton, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 6.

The question was put on the amendment of Taleeb Noormohamed, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 6;

NAYS: Martin Champoux, Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 4.

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 26 and 27 on page 2 with the following:

“and financial performance of the program, as well as a list of the cases that received funding in the previ‐”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 4;

NAYS: Niki Ashton, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 6.

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 28 on page 2 the following:

“(1.1) The annual report shall also state, for each of the program's two components, the number of cases that were denied funding.”

Debate arose thereon.

At 4:15 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 4:16 p.m., the meeting resumed.

Taleeb Noormohamed moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the word “cases” with the word “applications”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Taleeb Noormohamed and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 7;

NAYS: Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 3.

The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 3, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 7;

NAYS: Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 3.

After debate, Clause 4 was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: — 0;

NAYS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 10.

On new Clause 4.1,

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 3 the following new clause:

“4.1 Within six months after the day on which this Act comes into force, the Minister of Canadian Heritage shall enter into a framework agreement with the Government of Quebec for the purpose of making an arrangement respecting the management of any program established under paragraph 5(a.1) of the Department of Canadian Heritage Act.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux — 2;

NAYS: Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 8.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried.

On Preamble,

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 12 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas the Government of Canada recognizes that there are English or French linguistic minority communities in every province and territory and that the English linguistic minority community in Quebec and the French linguistic minority communities in the other provinces and the territories have different needs;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 12 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas the Official Languages Act recognizes the diversity of the provincial and territorial language regimes, including the fact that Quebec's Charter of the French language provides that French is the official language of Quebec;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Taleeb Noormohamed moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended by replacing lines 13 and 14 on page 1 with the following:

“Whereas it is of utmost importance that it be possible to bring before the courts test cases of na-”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Taleeb Noormohamed and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 6;

NAYS: Martin Champoux, Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 4.

Niki Ashton moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended

(a) by replacing line 14 on page 1 with the following:

“be able to bring before the courts cases of na‐”

(b) by replacing line 19 on page 1 with the following:

Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Canadian Human Rights Act;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 19 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas Parliament recognizes that, of the two official languages, French is in a minority situation in Canada and North America due to the predominant use of English and that language rights are to be interpreted by taking that fact into account.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-316, in the preamble, be amended by adding after line 19 on page 1 the following:

“Whereas the House of Commons has recognized that the Québécois form a nation;

Whereas, on May 24, 2022, the National Assembly of Québec passed An Act respecting French, the official and common language of Québec, which amended the Constitution Act, 1867 to state that Quebecers form a nation, that French is the only official language of Quebec and that it is the common language of the Quebec nation;

Whereas the Supreme Court of Canada has acknowledged that Quebec has distinct legal traditions and social values;

Whereas the rights of nations with distinct legal traditions and social values must be interpreted in a differential manner;”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

The Preamble, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Niki Ashton, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré — 7;

NAYS: Jacques Gourde, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 3.

The Title carried on division.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House on division.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-316, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Taleeb Noormohamed moved, — That, with respect to the review of Bill C-354 and other matters before the committee, the committee be scheduled as follows:

  1. June 6th:
    i. 1st hour to be the review of the Safe Sport Draft report,
    ii. 2nd hour to be the sponsor’s appearance on C-354,

  2. June 11th: Witnesses appear on Online Harms Study,

  3. June 13th: Witnesses appear on Online Harms Study,

  4. June 18th:
    i. Witnesses appear on C-354,
    ii. Deadline for amendments on C-354 is 12:00 p.m., and

  5. June 20th: Clause by clause for C-354.

At 4:56 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 4:57 p.m., the meeting resumed.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Anna Gainey, Jacques Gourde, Patricia Lattanzio, Taleeb Noormohamed, Marc G. Serré, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie — 9;

NAYS: Niki Ashton — 1.

At 5:04 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Geneviève Desjardins
Clerk of the committee