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Minutes of Proceedings
It was agreed, — That the Honorable Thomas Cromwell, former Supreme Court Justice, be invited to appear before the committee in relation to its study of safe sport in Canada on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, provided that the committee has concluded its clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-18, An Act respecting online communications platforms that make news content available to persons in Canada.
Thomas Owen Ripley answered questions.
The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 27 of the Bill.
On Clause 27,
Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 10 with the following:“(b) produces news content of public interest that is primarily focused”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
“on reports of current”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
“(i) regularly employs one or more journalists in Canada, which journalists may include journalists who own or are a partner in the news business, journalists who are engaged in civic journalism for underserved communities and journalists who work on a freelance or part-time basis,”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
That Bill C-18, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 10 with the following:
“Canada, which journalists may include journalists who own or are a partner in the news business,”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Morrice and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux — 1;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Michael Coteau, Marilyn Gladu, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Ron Liepert, Tim Louis, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 10.
“Canada, which journalists may include journalists who own or are a partner in the news business and journalists who do not deal at arm's length with the business,”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Julian and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
“(ii.1) is effectively owned and controlled by Canadians,
(ii.2) receives no funding from a foreign state as defined in section 30 of the Competition Act, an agent of a foreign state or an entity that is controlled by a foreign state, and”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
“(iii) produces news content that does not consist primarily of paid promotional material for the products, services or activities of the owner of the news business or any of its affiliates, or for those of a third party.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Ron Liepert, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
“(iv) is a member of a recognized journalistic association, follows the code of ethics of a recognized journalistic association or has its own code of ethics whose standards of professional conduct require adherence to the recognized processes and principles of the journalism profession, including fairness, independence and rigour in reporting news and handling sources.”
Debate arose thereon.
Anthony Housefather moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “is a member of a recognized journalistic association,” with the words “is either a member of a recognized journalistic association and”.
By unanimous consent, after debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.
By unanimous consent, the question was put on the subamendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.
Peter Julian moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding the following paragraph: “(1.1) The code of ethics referred to in subparagraph (1)(b)(iv) must include measures for ensuring that no news content that promotes hatred or misinformation against any identifiable group is produced or made available and that any errors of fact are corrected promptly and in a transparent manner.”.
Debate arose thereon.
At 3:03 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.