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Minutes of Proceedings
Michel Sabbagh and Thomas Owen Ripley answered questions.
The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 2 of the Bill.
(a) by replacing line 13 on page 2 with the following:
“ing an audio or audiovisual format — that is protected by copyright and that reports on, in-”
(b) by replacing line 15 on page 2 with the following:
“interest. It does not include a hyperlink that provides access to online news content and is presented without images or extracts of alphanumeric text that are part of the online news content. (contenu de nouvelles)”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
“interest and includes such content that an Indigenous news outlet makes available to an Indigenous community by means of Indigenous storytelling. (contenu de nouvelles)”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Julian and it was agreed to.
Clause 2, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 3,
Rachael Thomas moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 37 on page 2 with the following:“cal, regional and national news content, and that prevents any political interference or partisan bias from influencing the content produced by journalists.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
Clause 3 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 4,
Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 3 with the following:“its sustainability, including the sustainability of news businesses in Canada, including independent local ones.”
At 12:03 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Anthony Housefather moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the word “Canada” the following: “, in both the non-profit and for-profit sectors”.
After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux, as amended, and it was agreed to.
Clause 4, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Marilyn Gladu, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 10;
NAYS: — 0.
Clause 5 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 6,
Rachael Thomas moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 3 with the following:“ary that generates at least $100 million per year in advertising, subscription, usage or membership revenue in Canada if, having regard to the following factors, there is a”
Debate arose thereon.
Marilyn Gladu moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding the word “generated” after the word “revenue”.
After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Marilyn Gladu and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
The question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.
Clause 6 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7;
NAYS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 7,
Marilyn Gladu moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 3 to line 1 on page 4 with the following:“specifies, provide the Commission with the information that it reasonably requires for the purpose of verifying compliance”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Marilyn Gladu and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Marilyn Gladu, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Chris Bittle, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis, Mario Simard — 7.
At 1:04 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.