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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 63
Monday, November 6, 2023, 3:51 p.m. to 5:52 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Lloyd Longfield, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Kelsey Brennan, Analyst
• Grégoire Gayard, Analyst
As an individual
• Susan Kutz, Professor and Tier I Canada Research Chair in Arctic One Health
Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
• Rebecca Chouinard, Director, Natural Resources and Environment
• Sarah Kalhok Bourque, Director, Arctic Science Policy Integration
• Georgina Lloyd, Assistant Deputy Minister, Northern Affairs
Department of the Environment
• Myrle Ballard, Chief Indigenous Science Advisor
• Marc D'Iorio, Assistant Deputy Minister, Science and Technology Branch
• Paul MacDonald, Director, Indigenous Science Division
• Patrice Simon, Director General, Wildlife Landscape Science
Institut Tshakapesh
• Marjolaine Tshernish, Executive Director
Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami
• Natan Obed, President
• Carrie Grable, Director, Inuit Qaujisarvingat
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, September 18, 2023, the committee commenced its study of integration of indigenous traditional knowledge and science in government policy development.

Susan Kutz, Natan Obed, Carrie Grable, and Marjolaine Tshernish made statements.

Motion

Michelle Rempel Garner moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i), the Standing Committee on Science and Research conduct a study regarding the recent investigation and reports on Sustainable Development Technology Canada (SDTC) and serious allegations surrounding wrongdoing at the fund; that this study examines the ways in which these alarming allegations surrounding the fund, which distributes one billion dollars to the clean technology sector, may have impeded Canada’s abilities to research and deploy new technologies and advancements in science in the important fight against climate change; that the committee invite relevant SDTC officials, the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, related government officials and expert witnesses; that the study consists of at least 5 meetings; that the committee report its findings to the House; and that the witness meetings happen by December 31, 2023.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Corey Tochor moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “serious allegations surrounding wrongdoing at the fund” the following: “and all other government-funded programs that support climate change research;”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment of Corey Tochor and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Ben Lobb, Michelle Rempel Garner, Gerald Soroka, Corey Tochor — 5;

NAYS: Valerie Bradford, Richard Cannings, Lena Metlege Diab, Helena Jaczek, David Lametti, Ryan Turnbull — 6.

Debate on the motion of Michelle Rempel Garner continued.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Ben Lobb, Michelle Rempel Garner, Gerald Soroka, Corey Tochor — 5;

NAYS: Valerie Bradford, Richard Cannings, Lena Metlege Diab, Helena Jaczek, David Lametti, Ryan Turnbull — 6.

At 5:03 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:08 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Georgina Lloyd, Rebecca Chouinard, Sarah Kalhok Bourque, Marc D’Iorio, Patrice Simon, Myrle Ballard, and Paul MacDonald made statements and answered questions.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas gave notice of the following motion:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i), the Standing Committee on Science and Research conduct a study on the balance of federal government funding among Canada's universities, and more specifically on the concentration of funding among U15 member universities in comparison with small and medium-sized universities; that the committee devote at least 12 hours to the study and that the committee report its findings to the House.

At 5:52 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Hilary Smyth
Clerk of the committee