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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 102
Thursday, February 8, 2024, 11:02 a.m. to 1:01 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

• Anthony Housefather for Hon. Mona Fortier (Liberal)
• Lori Idlout for Matthew Green (NDP)
• Stephanie Kusie for Michael Barrett (Conservative)
• Hon. Robert Oliphant for Pam Damoff (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau, Analyst
Canada Revenue Agency
• Eric Ferron, Director General, Criminal Investigations Directorate, Compliance Programs Branch
• Anne Marie Laurin, Acting Director General and Deputy Chief Privacy Officer, Access to Information and Privacy Directorate, Public Affairs Branch
Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission
• Steven Harroun, Chief Compliance and Enforcement Officer
• Anthony McIntyre, General Counsel and Deputy Executive Director, Legal Services
Department of Fisheries and Oceans
• Brent Napier, Acting Director General, Conservation and Protection
• Sam Ryan, Director General, Integrated Technical Services
Department of the Environment
• Hannah Rogers, Director General, Environmental Enforcement
• Donald Walker, Chief Enforcement Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, December 6, 2023, the committee resumed its study of federal government's use of technological tools capable of extracting personal data from mobile devices and computers.

Brent Napier and Donald Walker made statements and, with the Sam Ryan and Hannah Rogers, answered questions.

At 12:01 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:09 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Steven Harroun and Eric Ferron made statements.

Michael Barrett gave notice of the following motion:

Given that the former President of Sustainable Development Technology Canada testified before committee last week, claiming that the Minister of Industry knew about conflicts of interest at the taxpayer-backed fund since 2019, contradicting the minister’s claim that he found out about abuse at the fund just this year, and that senior government officials misled committee about their attendance at SDTC board meetings where conflicts of interest occurred by board directors and the CEO by directing taxpayer money to companies that they have an interest in, and that a senior Department of Industry official who oversaw an investigation into the fund compromised the investigation through interference and unethical behaviour, the committee dedicate five meetings related to developments at Sustainable Development Technology Canada.

Steven Harroun, Eric Ferron and Anne Marie Laurin answered questions.

René Villemure gave notice of the following motion:

That, in accordance with Standing Order 108(3)(h), the Committee undertakes a study of misinformation and disinformation and their impact on the work of parliamentarians, that the Committee devotes the next three available meetings to this study; that the Committee invites experts in the field of misinformation and disinformation; and that the Committee reports its observations and recommendations to the House.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 1:01 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee