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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 65
Friday, April 21, 2023, 8:46 a.m. to 10:45 a.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
European Parliament
• Raphaël Glucksmann, Chair, Special Committee on foreign interference in all democratic processes in the European Union, including disinformation, and the strengthening of integrity, transparency and accountability in the European Parliament
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, December 7, 2022, the committee resumed its study of foreign interference and threats to the integrity of democratic institutions, intellectual property and the Canadian state.

The witness made a statement and answered questions.

At 10:12 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:15 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Michael Barrett moved, — That, in relation to the committee’s study of foreign interference and threats to the integrity of democratic institutions, intellectual property and the canadian state, the committee:

a) Invite Alexandre Trudeau, Founder and Succession Member of the Trudeau Foundation; and

b) Summons Pascale Fournier and Morris Rosenberg, both former President and CEO of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation, to appear at a date no later than May 5, 2023.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

René Villemure moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting paragraph a).

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Scot Davidson, Jacques Gourde, Matthew Green, Damien C. Kurek, René Villemure — 5;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Greg Fergus, Lisa Hepfner, Annie Koutrakis, Stéphane Lauzon — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.

Accordingly, the amendment was agreed to.

The question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Scot Davidson, Jacques Gourde, Matthew Green, Damien C. Kurek, René Villemure — 5;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Greg Fergus, Lisa Hepfner, Annie Koutrakis, Stéphane Lauzon — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.

Accordingly, the motion was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, in relation to the committee’s study of foreign interference and threats to the integrity of democratic institutions, intellectual property and the canadian state, the committee summon Pascale Fournier and Morris Rosenberg, both former President and CEO of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation, to appear at a date no later than May 5, 2023.

ORDERED, — That Pascale Fournier and Morris Rosenberg, both former President and CEO of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation, be summoned to appear before the committee at a date no later than May 5, 2023.

On motion of René Villemure, it was agreed, — That, in the context of its study of foreign interference, the committee visit the NATO Center of Excellence for Strategic Communication in Riga, Latvia.

Motion

Greg Fergus moved, — Given that the former interim Ethics officer has resigned, the committee does not proceed with the study created by the motion adopted on Tuesday, April 18, 2023.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Greg Fergus, Matthew Green, Lisa Hepfner, Annie Koutrakis, Stéphane Lauzon, René Villemure — 7;

NAYS: Scot Davidson, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3.

At 10:45 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee