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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics (ETHI)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 94
Monday, November 27, 2023, 3:34 p.m. to 5:52 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

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• Hon. Carolyn Bennett for Pam Damoff (Liberal)
• Larry Brock (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau, Analyst
Use of Social Media Platforms for Data Harvesting and Unethical or Illicit Sharing of Personal Information with Foreign Entities
As an individual
• Dr. Anatoliy Gruzd, Professor and Canada Research Chair in Privacy-Preserving Digital Technologies, Toronto Metropolitan University
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• D/Commr Bryan Larkin, Specialized Policing Services
• Brigitte Gauvin, Acting Assistant Commissioner, Federal Policing, National Security
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Catherine Luelo, Deputy Minister and Chief Information Officer of Canada
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, January 31, 2023, the committee resumed its study of the use of social media platforms for data harvesting and unethical or illicit sharing of personal information with foreign entities.

Anatoliy Gruzd made a statement and answered questions.

At 4:31 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:36 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Bryan Larkin and Catherine Luelo made statements and answered questions.

Motion

Iqra Khalid moved, — That, notwithstanding any previously adopted motion of this committee, in relation to the committee’s social media and foreign entities study:

(a) that the committee send invites to any witnesses who have not yet been invited and re-invite, as necessary, witnesses that we are still waiting for an answer to appear;

(b) that the committee issues a summons for the following witnesses to appear as soon as possible:

(i) Garrick Tiplady, VP Global Business Group and Country Director, Meta Canada;

(ii) Sabrina Geremia, VP and Country Managing Director, Google Canada;

(iii) Paul Burns, Managing Director, Twitter Canada;

(iv) Shou Zi Chew, Chief Executive Officer, TikTok;

(c) that the committee dedicate as many meetings as possible to complete the witness testimony, and that the committee not hear from any witnesses on studies related to another topic until the committee is satisfied that all witnesses in (a) and (b) have testified; that the committee set a deadline of Tuesday, November 28th at 12:00 p.m. ET to submit new witnesses to the clerk of the committee, and that all witnesses be given reasonable notice to prepare and attend committee meetings.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:28 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:31 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Amendment

Damien C. Kurek moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting paragraph (c).

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment of Damien C. Kurek and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Carolyn Bennett, Mona Fortier, Matthew Green, Mike Kelloway, Iqra Khalid, René Villemure — 7.

The debate continued on the motion.

At 5:52 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee