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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 116
Thursday, May 30, 2024, 8:16 a.m. to 10:13 a.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Robert J. Morrissey, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Eleni Kachulis, Analyst
• Vanessa Preston, Analyst
 
House of Commons
• Dancella Boyi, Legislative Clerk
• Jean-François Pagé, Legislative Clerk
Department of Employment and Social Development
• Erin Gillespie, Director, Social Policy Directorate
• Hugues Vaillancourt, Director General, Social Policy Directorate
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, December 6, 2023, the committee commenced consideration of Bill C-322, An Act to develop a national framework to establish a school food program.

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

Clause 2 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 7;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4.

On Clause 3,

Tracy Gray moved, — That Bill C-322, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 15 on page 3 the following:

“(i) examine the applicability of the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act to food and the transportation of food sourced under the school food program and, where applicable, examine ways to exempt them from the application of that Act.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tracy Gray and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4;

NAYS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 7.

Clause 3 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 7;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4.

On new Clause 3.1,

Louise Chabot moved, — That Bill C-322 be amended by adding after line 15 on page 3 the following new clause:

“3.1 In recognition of the provincial jurisdiction with regard to health and education, the government of a province may choose to be exempted from any obligation that may arise out of the implementation of the national framework.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was contrary to the principle of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Whereupon, Tracy Gray appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

On Clause 4,

Tracy Gray moved, — That Bill C-322, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 3 with the following:

“ting out the national framework and that includes a projection of transportation and production costs that would be incurred by the school food program under the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act, and cause the report to”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tracy Gray and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4;

NAYS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 7.

Clause 4 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

On Clause 5,

Tracy Gray moved, — That Bill C-322, in Clause 5, be amended by adding after line 33 on page 3 the following:

“(1.1) The report must include a comprehensive breakdown of costs incurred under the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act for each item of food provided under the school food program.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tracy Gray and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4;

NAYS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 7.

Clause 5 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

Clause 6 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

The Preamble carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

The Title carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

The Bill, was adopted on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Lori Idlout, Tony Van Bynen — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Louise Chabot, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 5.

It was agreed – That the Chair report the Bill to the House on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Louise Chabot, Chad Collins, Serge Cormier, Michael Coteau, Peter Fragiskatos, Tony Van Bynen, Bonita Zarrillo — 7;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Rosemarie Falk, Michelle Ferreri, Tracy Gray — 4.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill to the House.

It was agreed, — that Serge Cormier present to the House the report on Bill C-322, An Act to develop a national framework to establish a school food program.

Tracy Gray gave notice of the following motion:

Given that, a recent report from the Salvation Army indicates that:

  1. nearly a third of Canadians continue to feel pessimistic about the future of their personal finances;
  2. one in four Canadians continue to be extremely concerned about having enough income to cover their basic needs;
  3. Canadians’ extreme concerns about the cost of living continue and are not subsiding;
  4. about one in 10 Canadians continue to be extremely concerned about basic human needs, such as shelter and food, or being affected by a natural disaster or emergency;
  5. mental and physical wellbeing continue to be an extreme concern among roughly one in three Canadians, as is being able to afford activities they want to do;
  6. three in four Canadians continue to face food security challenges, with nominal upward trends. This wave, more have skipped or reduced the size of at least one meal because they couldn’t afford groceries;
  7. among those who accessed a food bank in the last year, over half (61%) were first-time users;
  8. nearly one in three Canadians faced challenges managing limited financial resources in the past year, with nominal upward trends across all challenges;
  9. over half of Canadians faced issues impacting their health, increasing Canadians’ deprioritization of medical expenses due to costs;
  10. the number of Canadians facing housing security challenges has increased, with more needing to move in with family because they can’t afford housing or were living in unsuitable housing conditions;
  11. and while many feel they can meet their financial needs in the next 12 months, over three-quarters are stressed out about the increase of the cost of living;

    that the committee recognize and report to the House that Canada is facing a rapidly worsening affordability, housing, and food insecurity crisis and, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), that the committee invite the Minister of Finance and officials, as well as representatives from the Salvation Army to appear before the committee to testify in relation to these findings, as soon as possible, for no less than two hours each, and that the committee find additional resources if necessary to facilitate this meeting.

Michelle Ferreri gave notice of the following motion:

Given that :

A recent report from Food Banks Canada indicates that:

  1. Canada has reached a critical turning point as poverty and food insecurity worsen in every corner of the country;
  2. nearly half of Canadians feel financially worse-off compared to last year;
  3. one in four 4 Canadians is experiencing food insecurity; and
  4. 33.3% of Canadians are experiencing an inadequate standard of living, while 23.7% of Canadians are experiencing a severely inadequate standard of living;
  5. and, that Food Banks Canada has graded the federal government’s commitment to addressing this crisis as a D,

    that the committee recognizes, and reports to the House that Canada is facing a rapidly worsening affordability, and food insecurity crisis, and, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee invite the Minister of Environment and Climate Change and officials, as well as representatives from Food Banks Canada to appear before the committee to testify in relation to these findings, as soon as possible, for no less than two hours each, and that the committee find additional resources if necessary to facilitate this meeting.

At 9:19 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:27 a.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

At 9:40 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:50 a.m., the sitting resumed.

At 10:13 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Ariane Calvert
Clerk of the committee