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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 126
Monday, December 9, 2024, 4:02 p.m. to 5:58 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Larry Brock, Vice-Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Lyne Casavant, Analyst
• Dana Phillips, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $23,250.00, for the pre-study on Bill C-63, be adopted.

As an individual
• Emily Laidlaw, Associate Professor and Canada Research Chair in Cybersecurity Law, University of Calgary
• Witness-Témoin 1
Barreau du Québec
• Catherine Claveau, Bâtonnière du Québec
• Nicolas Le Grand Alary, Lawyer, Secretariat of the Order and Legal Affairs
• Michel Marchand, Member, Criminal Law Expert Group
Canadian Civil Liberties Association
• Anaïs Bussières McNicoll, Director, Fundamental Freedoms Program
Droits collectifs Québec
• Étienne-Alexis Boucher, President
• François Côté, Senior Legal Officer
OpenMedia
• Matthew Hatfield, Executive Director
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, November 25, 2024, the committee resumed its Pre-Study on Bill C-63.

Anaïs Bussières McNicoll, Catherine Claveau and Witness-1 made statements and, with Nicolas Le Grand Alary and Michel Marchand, answered questions.

Tako Van Popta gave notice of the following motion:

Given that:

  • a need exists to quickly pass provisions to keep Canadians safe while protecting free speech;
  • members of several political parties have expressed a need to split bill c-63 in part due to reservations about the bill's provisions involving restrictions on speech;
  • the committee is currently doing a pre-study on Bill C-63;
  • Bill C-63 proposes giving full responsibility to develop regulations for online platforms to a regulator that hasn’t been formed yet, and does so with too much ambiguity on what regulations this body will propose or administer;
  • Based on witness testimony, a better approach to keep Canadians safe online while protecting their civil liberties would be to legislate a defined list of responsibilities that online platforms have to undertake to keep Canadians safe;

That the committee proceed to concurrently pre-study Bill C-412 – Promotion of Safety in the Digital Age Act, along with its pre-study of Bill C-63, so as to examine other legislative options to protect Canadians online which could be quickly advanced by consensus without the controversial elements on C-63.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:05 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:12 p.m., the meeting resumed.

Emily Laidlaw, Étienne-Alexis Boucher and Matthew Hatfield made statements and answered questions.

At 5:24 p.m., Rhéal Éloi Fortin took the Chair.

At 5:58 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Roger
Committee clerk