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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 106
Wednesday, March 6, 2024, 10:01 a.m. to 12:19 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Williamson, Chair (Conservative)

• Kelly Block for Arnold Viersen (Conservative)
• Fayçal El-Khoury for Jean Yip (Liberal)
• Mona Fortier for Jean Yip (Liberal)
• Garnett Genuis for John Nater (Conservative)
• Stephanie Kusie for Jake Stewart (Conservative)
• Anita Vandenbeld for Shaun Chen (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Mahdi Benmoussa, Analyst
• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst
Office of the Auditor General
• Karen Hogan, Auditor General of Canada
• Andrew Hayes, Deputy Auditor General
• Sami Hannoush, Principal
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Roch Huppé, Comptroller General of Canada
• Dominic Rochon, Chief Information Officer of Canada
• Karen Cahill, Assistant Secretary and Chief Financial Officer
• Emilio Franco, Executive Director, Procurement, Materiel, and Communities Directorate
• Samantha Tattersall, Assistant Comptroller General, Acquired Services and Assets Sector
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the committee resumed conside ration of the Report 1, ArriveCAN, referred to the committee on Monday, February 12, 2024.

Karen Hogan and Roch Huppé made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee report to the House that it calls on the government to prohibit any government employee from simultaneously working as an external contractor.

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Brenda Shanahan moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Valerie Bradford, Fayçal El-Khoury, Iqra Khalid, Brenda Shanahan, Anita Vandenbeld — 5;

NAYS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie, Heather McPherson, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the negative.

Accordingly, the motion was negatived.

The committee resumed debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis.

The question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie, Heather McPherson, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné — 5;

NAYS: Valerie Bradford, Fayçal El-Khoury, Iqra Khalid, Brenda Shanahan, Anita Vandenbeld — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.

Accordingly, the motion was agreed to.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the following motion to the House: that the committee calls on the government to prohibit any government employee from simultaneously working as an external contractor.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Brenda Shanahan moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Valerie Bradford, Fayçal El-Khoury, Iqra Khalid, Heather McPherson, Brenda Shanahan, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné, Anita Vandenbeld — 7;

NAYS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie — 3.

At 12:19 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Hilary Smyth
Clerk of the committee