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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 107
Thursday, March 7, 2024, 10:00 a.m. to 1:16 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Williamson, Chair (Conservative)

• Michael Barrett for Jake Stewart (Conservative)
• Kelly Block for John Nater (Conservative)
• Garnett Genuis for John Nater (Conservative)
• Stephanie Kusie for Arnold Viersen (Conservative)
• Marcus Powlowski for Shaun Chen (Liberal)
• Tony Van Bynen for Valerie Bradford (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Mahdi Benmoussa, Analyst
• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst
Department of Public Works and Government Services
• Arianne Reza, Deputy Minister
• Dominic Laporte, Assistant Deputy Minister, Procurement Branch
• Catherine Poulin, Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch
Office of the Auditor General
• Andrew Hayes, Deputy Auditor General
• Sami Hannoush, Principal
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the committee resumed consideration of the Report 1, ArriveCAN, referred to the committee on Monday, February 12, 2024.

Andrew Hayes and Arianne Reza made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

Motion

Garnett Genuis moved, — That the committee report to the House that it invites the President of the Treasury Board, Anita Anand to appear for no less than two hours in relation to the ArriveScam study, and that this meeting occur within three weeks of this motion being adopted.

Debate arose thereon.

At 12:02 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:09 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis continued.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “ArriveScam” with the word “ArriveCAN”.

Amendment

Iqra Khalid moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing “invites the President of the Treasury Board, Anita Anand” with the following: “invites back officials from the Treasury Board Secretariat”.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible as it exceeded the scope of the motion and introduced a new proposition which should be the subject of a substantive motion.

Whereupon, Tony Van Bynen appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: “Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?” was put and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Garnett Genuis, Lori Idlout, Stephanie Kusie, Sébastien Lemire— 5;

NAYS: Iqra Khalid, Marcus Powlowski, Brenda Shanahan, Tony Van Bynen, Jean Yip — 5.

Accordingly, the Chair’s decision was sustained.

The debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis continued.

Amendment

Brenda Shanahan moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “, and that this meeting occur within three weeks of this motion being adopted.”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Iqra Khalid, Marcus Powlowski, Brenda Shanahan, Tony Van Bynen, Jean Yip — 5;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Kelly Block, Lori Idlout, Stephanie Kusie, Sébastien Lemire — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the negative.

Accordingly, the amendment was negatived.

The debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis continued.

Amendment

Jean Yip moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “report to the House that it”.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible as it is contrary to the main motion.

Whereupon, Jean Yip appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: “Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?” was put and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Kelly Block, Lori Idlout, Stephanie Kusie, Sébastien Lemire— 5;

NAYS: Iqra Khalid, Marcus Powlowski, Brenda Shanahan, Tony Van Bynen, Jean Yip — 5.

Accordingly, the Chair’s decision was sustained.

The debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis continued.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Kelly Block, Lori Idlout, Iqra Khalid, Stephanie Kusie, Sébastien Lemire, Marcus Powlowski, Brenda Shanahan, Tony Van Bynen, Jean Yip — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee report to the House that it invites the President of the Treasury Board, Anita Anand to appear for no less than two hours in relation to the ArriveCAN study, and that this meeting occur within three weeks of this motion being adopted.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the following motion to the House: That the committee invites the President of the Treasury Board, Anita Anand to appear for no less than two hours in relation to the ArriveCAN study, and that this meeting occur within three weeks of this motion being adopted.

At 1:16 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Hilary Smyth
Clerk of the committee