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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 126
Thursday, May 30, 2024, 3:33 p.m. to 5:48 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Williamson, Chair (Conservative)

• Michael Barrett for Jake Stewart (Conservative)
• Larry Brock for Arnold Viersen (Conservative)
• Garnett Genuis for John Nater (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Mahdi Benmoussa, Analyst
• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst
Donna Cona Inc.
• John Bernard, Chief Executive Officer
• Barry Dowdall, President
KPMG
• Imraan Bashir, Partner, Cyber Security
• Lydia Lee, Partner and National Leader, Digital Health Transformation Practice
TEKsystems
• Christopher Loschmann, Director, Canadian Government Services
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the committee resumed consideration of the Report 1, ArriveCAN, referred to the committee on Monday, February 12, 2024.

Imraan Bashir, John Bernard, and Christopher Loschmann made statements and, with other witnesses, answered questions.

Brenda Shanahan gave notice of the following motion:

Given that nature is an integral part of Canadian culture and Canadian identity and provides unmeasurable value to our society. Wildfires across Canada are impacting communities, the health of Canadians and exacerbating the climate and biodiversity crisis.Every industry relies on a biodiverse supply of natural resources to function. The world is experiencing an unprecedented biodiversity crisis.

There are than 1 million species facing extinction globally including 640 at-risk species in Canada. The rapid decline in biodiversity threatens the foundations of our economy, our food security, our health, and our quality of life and poses serious and irreversible risks our communities and livelihoods.

There is a climate emergency, as declared by this house on June 17, 2019. Nature and climate are intertwined, and you cannot solve one crisis without solving the other.

That this Committee:

Commits to studying 2022, Report 7—Protecting Aquatic Species at Risk on June 13, 2024, Report 2—Follow-up on the Recovery of Species at Risk on June 18, 2024, and Report 2023, Report 3—Discretionary Powers to Protect Species at Risk on June 20, 2024.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Motion

Brenda Shanahan moved, — That the committee immediately conduct a study into the flagrant disregard for public funds exercised by Pierre Poilievre’s Conservative Party of Canada Members of Parliament, who expensed their travel costs, hotels, and per diems to travel to Quebec City for the Conservative Party of Canada partisan convention in September 2023, as a matter of the public interest, and report its findings to the House.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the motion inadmissible as it exceeded the mandate of the committee.

Whereupon, Iqra Khalid appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put by recorded division and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Larry Brock, Blake Desjarlais, John Nater, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné — 5;

NAYS: Valerie Bradford, Iqra Khalid, Brenda Shanahan, Patrick Weiler, Jean Yip — 5.

Accordingly, the Chair's decision was sustained as the question was not negatived.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:48 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Naaman Sugrue
Clerk of the committee