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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 86
Thursday, November 23, 2023, 11:00 a.m. to 1:33 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
John Williamson, Chair (Conservative)

House of Commons
• Carine Grand-Jean, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Mahdi Benmoussa, Analyst
• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst
Department of Finance
• Chris Forbes, Deputy Minister
• Evelyn Dancey, Assistant Deputy Minister, Fiscal Policy Branch
Office of the Auditor General
• Karen Hogan, Auditor General
• Sana Garda, Principal
• Etienne Matte, Principal
Treasury Board Secretariat
• Roch Huppé, Comptroller General of Canada
• Blair Kennedy, Senior Director, Government Accounting Policy and Reporting, Financial Management Sector
• Diane Peressini, Executive Director, Government Accounting Policy and Reporting, Financial Management Sector
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the committee resumed consideration of the Public Accounts of Canada 2023, referred to the committee on Tuesday, October 24, 2023.

Karen Hogan and Roch Huppé made statements and answered questions.

At 11:40 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:07 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Kelly McCauley gave notice of the following motion:

That, given the fact that,

• GC Strategies, a two-person company, that does not perform any actual work but exclusively subcontracts contracts they acquire, has received $59 million in taxpayer dollars from 2017 to present; and

• despite government promises to reduce outside contract spending the recently released supplementary estimates (C) show an increase in contract and services spending of $1.2 billion

That the committee initiate a six-meeting investigation concerning the value for money the Government has obtained through contracting GC Strategies and that the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.

To facilitate its investigation, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1), the committee order the production of all contracts between GC Strategies and the Government of Canada from 2017 to 2022 in an unredacted format.

The witness list include the following:

1. All GC Strategies employees (Kristian Firth and Darren Anthony)

2. All federal departments and agencies that hired GC Strategies from 2017 to present:

· Department of National Defense

· Department of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion

· Department of Innovation Science and Industry

· Courts Administration Service

· Treasury Board Secretariat

· Department of Families, Children and Social Development

· Global Affairs Canada

· Canada Border Services Agency

· Department of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard

· Office of the Secretary of the Governor General

· Department of Natural Resources

· Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

· Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission

· Department of Public Safety Canada

· Department of Transport Canada

· Department of Environment and Climate Change Canada

· Public Services and Procurement Canada

Additionally, the Ministers of the aforementioned departments and agencies are invited to appear alongside their departmental contracting agencies.

At 1:33 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Cédric Taquet
Clerk of the committee