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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 106
Monday, February 26, 2024, 11:02 a.m. to 1:15 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
Public Service Alliance of Canada
• Sasha Hart, General Counsel
• Seth Sazant, Pension and Benefits Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, October 17, 2023, the committee resumed its study of the changeover of the Public Service Health Care Plan from Sun Life to Canada Life.

Seth Sazant made a statement and, with Sasha Hart, answered questions.

Julie Vignola gave oral notice of the following motion:

''That the committee request the Auditor General of Canada:

i. To conduct an analysis of the contract between the Government of Canada and the Canada Life Insurance Company in relation to the Public Service Health Care Plan;

ii. To compare the services offered by Sun Life of Canada with those offered by Canada Life;

iii. To report to the committee as soon as possible.''

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 12:29 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:34 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Julie Vignola moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1), the committee order the government and Public Services and Procurement Canada to produce, in both official languages, a copy of all contracts, communications, memoranda, calls for tenders and proposal submissions with GC Strategies in the context of the COVID Alert application, as well as all government or internal communications from any government agency or department in connection with the COVID Alert application, and that they be submitted no later than Friday, March 15, 2024, provided that these documents are free of all redactions.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Irek Kusmierczyk moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “, communications, memoranda, calls for tenders and proposal submissions”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Sonia Sidhu, Charles Sousa — 5;

NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie, Julie Vignola — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the negative.

Accordingly, the amendment was negatived.

The debate continued

Amendment

Irek Kusmierczyk moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “, as well as all government or internal communications from any government agency or department in connection with the COVID Alert application,”.

Debate arose thereon.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

Amendment

Irek Kusmierczyk moved, — That the motion be amended by adding before the words “to produce, in both official languages” the following: “and Health Canada”; and by deleting the words “as well as all government or internal communications from any government agency or department in connection with the COVID Alert application”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment of Irek Kusmierczyk and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Parm Bains, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Sonia Sidhu, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 7;

NAYS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie — 3.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “provided that these documents are free of all redactions” with the words “and that these documents be provided free of redactions”.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion as amended.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Parm Bains, Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Majid Jowhari, Stephanie Kusie, Irek Kusmierczyk, Sonia Sidhu, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1), the committee order the government and Public Services and Procurement Canada and Health Canada to produce, in both official languages, a copy of all contracts, communications, memoranda, calls for tenders and proposal submissions with GC Strategies in the context of the COVID Alert application and that they be submitted no later than Friday, March 15, 2024, and that these documents be provided free of redactions.

At 1:15 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Committee clerk