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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates (OGGO)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 87
Thursday, November 23, 2023, 3:32 p.m. to 5:44 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

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• Adam Chambers for Garnett Genuis (Conservative)
• Marcus Powlowski for Jenica Atwin (Liberal)
• Shannon Stubbs for Stephanie Kusie (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Olivier Leblanc-Laurendeau, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
Supplementary Estimates (B), 2023-24: Vote 1b under Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat, Vote 1b under Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Vote 1b under Privy Council Office, Votes 1b and 5b under Shared Services Canada and Votes 1b, 10b, 15b and 20b under Treasury Board Secretariat
Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
• Yves Giroux, Parliamentary Budget Officer
• Jill Giswold, Senior Analyst
• Kaitlyn Vanderwees, Analyst
C.D. Howe Institute
• William Robson, Chief Executive Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the committee commenced consideration of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2023-24: Vote 1b under Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat, Vote 1b under Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board, Votes 1b, 5b and 10b under Department of Public Works and Government Services, Vote 1b under Privy Council Office, Votes 1b and 5b under Shared Services Canada and Votes 1b, 10b, 15b and 20b under Treasury Board Secretariat, referred to the committee on Thursday, November 9, 2023.

Yves Giroux made a statement and, with Jill Giswold, answered questions.

At 3:49 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:50 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 4:29 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:31 p.m., the sitting resumed.

William Robson made a statement and, with Yves Giroux, answered questions.

Irek Kusmierczyk gave notice of the following motion:

That the committee hold one meeting on the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s report entitled, “Costing Support for EV Battery Manufacturing”, published on November 17, 2023, and that the Parliamentary Budget officer, Yves Giroux, be invited to appear for the first hour, and Flavio Volpe also be invited to appear for the second hour.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

It was agreed, — That the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer perform an analysis on cuts and services to programs with regards to the $500 million savings announced, similar to the one performed by the Parliamentary Budget Officer in April 2012.

Committee Business
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That the proposed budget in the amount of $6,000, for the study of Supplementary Estimates (B), 2023-24, be adopted.

At 5:32 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:35 p.m., the sitting resumed.

It was agreed, — That the order pertaining to sending for contracts between a government department, agency or Crown Corporation and GCstrategies, Dalian or Coradix, adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 26, 2023, be discharged and replaced with the following:

ORDERED, — That the clerk of the committee inform government departments, agencies or Crown Corporations that the committee sends for a copy of all contracts between said departments, agencies or crown corporations and GCstrategies, Dalian or Coradix going back at least twelve years; and that the unredacted documents be submitted to the clerk of the committee in both official languages three weeks from Thursday, October 26, 2023.

ORDERED, — That the clerk of the committee inform Dalian/Coradix that the committee sends for a copy of the contract for the Botler AI task authorization; and that the documents be submitted to the clerk of the committee three weeks from Tuesday, October 31, 2023, by 12:00 p.m.

ORDERED, — That the clerk of the committee inform Dalian/Coradix that the committee sends for a copy of the contracts that were signed with GCstrategies for the programs set by the Canada Border Services Agency to fulfill their obligations under Bill C-65, otherwise known as the Botler project; and that the documents be submitted to the clerk of the committee three weeks from Tuesday, October 31, 2023, by 12:00 p.m.

ORDERED, — That the clerk of the committee inform Dalian/Coradix that the committee sends for a list of the government departments and agencies that Dalian and Coradix have had contracts with; and that the documents be submitted to the clerk of the committee three weeks from Tuesday, October 31, 2023, by 12:00 p.m.

At 5:44 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Aimée Belmore
Clerk of the committee