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Minutes of Proceedings
Conservative
Bloc Québécois
NDP
At 11:03 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:14 a.m., the sitting resumed in public.
Kelly McCauley moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108 (2), the committee undertake a study of the development of the ArriveCan application, with a focus on the costs to develop and launch the application;
that the committee dedicate a minimum of six meetings to this study; that the committee report its findings to the House; that the committee send for, in an unredacted format, all documents related to the planning, contracting and sub-contracting of the app development and launch, including all requests for proposal, all documentation related to contractors and sub-contractors, that the committee send for a breakdown of the costs incurred by GCstrategies for the ArriveCAN app, and a list of all contractors and sub-contractors involved in the development and launch of the app; that these documents be provided to the clerk of the committee in electronic format no later than 12 p.m. on the 10th business day following the adoption of this motion; that departments be required to submit documents in both official languages; that the clerk of the committee be instructed to transmit all documents received to the Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel (OLCPC) and that the OLCPC be asked to make redactions that pertain to personal information and that the clerk of the committee publish the documents redacted by the OLCPC on the committee’s website;
that the committee invite the following witnesses, in addition to any further witnesses the committee may consider relevant to appear:
Minister Jean-Yves Duclos,
Minister Patty Hajdu,
Minister Marco Mendicino,
Minister Bill Blair,
Minister Helena Jaczek,
Public Services and Procurement Canada,
Public Health Agency of Canada,
Public Safety Canada,
Canada Border Service Agency,
Kristian Firth and Darren Anthony, GCstrategies,
Richard Hyatt, Founding Partner and Fellow at the Rotman School of Management’s Creative Destruction Lab,
Zain Manji, Lazer Technologies,
TribalScale, Fahd Ananta, Roach Capital,
Gautam Lohia, Apply Digital CEO,
Nick Van Weerdenburg, Rangle CEO;
that, if departmental officials appear alongside a minister, that they would also be required to appear on a second panel separate from the minister; and that these meetings be televised if possible.
Anthony Housefather moved, — That the motion be amended by:
- replacing the word “six” with the word “two”;
- deleting the following: that the committee report its findings to the House;
- deleting the second, third and fifth paragraphs;
- replacing the fourth paragraph with the following: “That the committee invite the following witnesses: Public Services and Procurement Canada Public Health, Agency of Canada Public Safety Canada, Canada Border Service Agency, and that after hearing from these witnesses the committee will determine whether other further meetings are required and the witnesses the committee considers relevant to appear.”
By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the amendment of Anthony Housefather read as follows:
That the motion be amended by:
a) adding after the words “on the development” the following: “, launch and maintenance”;
b) deleting the following: “, with a focus on the costs to develop and launch the app”;
c) replacing the word “six” with the following: “two”;
d) deleting the following: “that the committee report its findings to the House;”;
e) replacing the second, third, fourth and fifth paragraphs with the following:
“that the committee send for, in an unredacted format, the following documents: the list of contractors and subcontractors, the breakdown of the costs, the list of contracts, all requests for proposal, and invoices;
that these documents be provided to the clerk of the committee in electronic format no later than 12 p.m. on the 10th business day following the adoption of this motion;”
that the committee invite the following witnesses:
• Public Services and Procurement Canada
• Public Health Agency of Canada
• Public Safety Canada
• Canada Border Service Agency
• Kristian Firth and Darren Anthony, GCstrategies
• Mark Webber, President, Customs and Immigration Union; and
that after hearing from these witnesses the committee will determine whether other further meetings are required and the witnesses the committee considers relevant to appear.”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Parm Bains, Anthony Housefather, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Joanne Thompson, Julie Vignola — 7;
NAYS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Kelly McCauley — 3.
The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the development, launch and maintenance of the ArriveCan app; that the committee dedicate a minimum of two meetings to this study; that the committee send for, in an unredacted format, the following documents: the list of contractors and subcontractors, the breakdown of the costs, the list of contracts, all requests for proposal, and invoices; that these documents be provided to the clerk of the committee in electronic format no later than 12 p.m. on the 10th business day following the adoption of this motion; that the committee invite the following witnesses: Public Services and Procurement Canada, Public Health Agency of Canada, Public Safety Canada, Canada Border Service Agency, Kristian Firth and Darren Anthony, GCstrategies, Mark Webber, President, Customs and Immigration Union; and that after hearing from these witnesses the committee will determine whether other further meetings are required and the witnesses the committee considers relevant to appear.
At 12:27 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:35 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.
At 12:53 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.