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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 75
Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 4:50 p.m. to 6:56 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Diana Ambrozas, Analyst
• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst
House of Commons
• Michel Bédard, Interim Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel
Atomic Energy of Canada Limited
• Fred Dermarkar, President and Chief Executive Officer
Canada Development Investment Corporation
• Elizabeth Wademan, President and Chief Executive Officer
Department of Employment and Social Development
• Jean-François Tremblay, Deputy Minister
Department of Finance
• Nick Leswick, Interim Deputy Minister
Department of Veterans Affairs
• Paul Ledwell, Deputy Minister
Privy Council Office
• Matthew Shea, Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Ministerial Services and Corporate Affairs
Public Sector Pension Investment Board
• Mélanie Bernier, Senior Vice-President and Chief Legal and People Officer
Trans Mountain Corporation
• Kevin Thrasher, Vice-President, Legal
Pursuant to Standing Orders 108(3)(c)(iii) and 108(3)(c)(ix) and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, January 18, 2023, the committee resumed its study of federal government consulting contracts awarded to McKinsey & Company.

Michel Bedard, Matthew Shea and Fred Dermarkar made statements and, with Mélanie Bernier and Elizabeth Wademan, answered questions.

Motion

Stephanie Kusie moved, —

That, further to the evidence received by the committee pursuant to the motion adopted on Monday, April 24, 2023, and in relation to the redactions and improper translation of documents received by the committee pursuant to the order for production of documents adopted by the committee on Wednesday, January 18, 2023, the committee is of the opinion that there is a potential breach of privilege which must be reported to the House, and therefore,

a) The draft report prepared by the analysts on this issue be amended to identify the following departments, agencies and crown corporations that did not comply with the committee’s order to produce unredacted documents, or did not adequately translate documents prior to their submission,

  • Atomic Energy of Canada Limited
  • Business Development Bank of Canada
  • Canada Border Services Agency
  • Canada Development Investment Corporation
  • Canada Pension Plan Investment Board
  • Canada Post
  • Destination Canada
  • Department of Finance Canada
  • Employment and Social Development Canada
  • Export Development Canada
  • Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
  • Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
  • National Defence
  • Natural Resources Canada
  • Office of the Veterans Ombud (Veterans Affairs Canada)
  • Privy Council Office
  • Public Sector Pension Investment Board
  • Public Services and Procurement Canada
  • TransMountain Corporation;


b) The draft report, as amended, be adopted;

c) The report be entitled: Question of Privilege on Providing Documents to the Committee;

d) The Chair, Clerk and analysts be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes as may be necessary without changing the substance of the report;

e) Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to this report;

f) The dissenting or supplementary opinions be in Calibri 12‑point font, left aligned, single‑spaced, and be submitted electronically, in both official languages, to the clerk of the committee, not later than 4:00 p.m. on Friday, June 23, 2023;

g) And that the Chair present this report to the House at the earliest opportunity.

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Anthony Housefather moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Anthony Housefather, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Joanne Thompson — 6;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Kelly Block, Stephanie Kusie, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné — 4.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 6:12 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:22 p.m., the sitting resumed.

As an individual
• Harriet Solloway
Pursuant to Standing Order 111.1(1) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, June 19, 2023, the committee commenced consideration of the certificate of nomination Harriet Solloway to the position of Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, referred to the committee on Wednesday, June 7, 2023.

Harriet Solloway made a statement and answered questions.

It was agreed on division, — That the committee report the following to the House:

Your committee has considered the Certificate of Nomination of Harriet Solloway, nominee for the position of Public Sector Integrity Commissioner, referred on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, pursuant to Standing Order 111.1(1).

Your committee has considered the proposed appointment of Harriet Solloway as Public Sector Integrity Commissioner and reports its recommendation that she be confirmed by the House of Commons as Canada’s Public Sector Integrity Commissioner.

At 6:56 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Aimée Belmore
Clerk of the committee